On Jul 4, 4:29 pm, "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurwe... at (no spam) voyager.net
wrote:

About the secons world war, well, it says a lot that only Germans and
Japanese were judged for war crimes.  And I don't think we can say
that the allies rebuilt Germany and Japan.  Haven't studied much about
Japan, but that isn't true about Germany.

The Allies sure did re-build Germany and Japan after WWII.  The Allies also
took care of Berlin after the Commies took over, remember the Berlin
Air-Lift?  We still have troops stationed in Germany and in Japan since the
Second World War.- Hide quoted text -

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The air-lift was years after the war.  Right after the war, the allies
didn't care if the German population starved to death.  Actually, it
seems that's kind of what they wanted.  Have you heard about the
Morgenthau plan?.
That until they thought that Germany would be a good ally against
communism.

And I don't think that the US troops in Germany and Japan are there
because they wanna help them.-

On Jul 4, 4:29 pm, "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurwe... at (no spam) voyager.net
wrote:

Anyway, the goverment arrested these people, what is the problem with
the justice system deciding if that is fine or not?.

I do not see a problem.  They are enjoying a higher quality of life than the
were in the desert.

You don't see a problem?.  I see we agree about that then.

About the quality of life, since this thread is about torture, I guess
you're kidding.



About the secons world war, well, it says a lot that only Germans and
Japanese were judged for war crimes.  And I don't think we can say
that the allies rebuilt Germany and Japan.  Haven't studied much about
Japan, but that isn't true about Germany.

The Allies sure did re-build Germany and Japan after WWII.  The Allies also
took care of Berlin after the Commies took over, remember the Berlin
Air-Lift?  We still have troops stationed in Germany and in Japan since the
Second World War.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

The air-lift was years after the war.  Right after the war, the allies
didn't care if the German population starved to death.  Actually, it
seems that's kind of what they wanted.  Have you heard about the
Morgenthau plan?.
That until they thought that Germany would be a good ally against
communism.

And I don't think that the US troops in Germany and Japan are there
because they wanna help them.

Did you know of the 6 million Jews killed by Hitler and his helpers, 1
million were little children?

RichL wrote:
Political groups are perfect for that. Music and baseball, not so
much.

Sox-Yanks on!

I saw the second half. Mo's 9th inning almost had me reaching for the
Pepto!

Then, I saw a little of the Rays tonight. The nerve of them being so
good!

I was sure the Sox would score with the bases loaded and no one out!

I don't know what's up with Tampa Bay.  Teams aren't supposed to
improve
that much in a year's time!

Why not? If the Rockies can go from National League Champions to shit in
one year, why can't the reverse be true?

-Ehtue

(although, the Rockies *have* scored a lot of runs in the past two days
-

Political groups are perfect for that. Music and baseball, not so
much.

Sox-Yanks on!

Gay,

I am a retired police officer from the suburban Demerit area and that is he
point of his comment.

Well, once a cop, always a cop.

What does that mean? Are you now trying to insult police officers?

RichL wrote:

Political groups are perfect for that. Music and baseball, not so
much.

Sox-Yanks on!

I saw the second half. Mo's 9th inning almost had me reaching for the
Pepto!

Then, I saw a little of the Rays tonight. The nerve of them being so
good!

I was sure the Sox would score with the bases loaded and no one out!

I don't know what's up with Tampa Bay. Teams aren't supposed to improve
that much in a year's time!

Political groups are perfect for that. Music and baseball, not so
much.

Sox-Yanks on!

I saw the second half. Mo's 9th inning almost had me reaching for the
Pepto!

Then, I saw a little of the Rays tonight. The nerve of them being so
good!

I was sure the Sox would score with the bases loaded and no one out!

I don't know what's up with Tampa Bay. Teams aren't supposed to
improve
that much in a year's time!

On Jul 7, 4:03 pm, Crisstti <crissttigalda... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Jul 4, 10:05 pm, fattuc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:

On Jul 4, 2:56 pm, "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurwe... at (no spam) voyager.net
wrote:

"O'Leary III" <mootbowowohjdan1 at (no spam) ;wjfhdr.com> wrote in message

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Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Well hell-fuckin-o.  Of course I do not know if they are insurgents or
Taliban.  I am retired Deeeetroit area police officer who can tell who is
a criminal or not.    I fully trust the honorable men and women of our
voluntary military and the other members of the Coalition to find out and
kill the terrorist insurgents and Taliban members.  Shoot em so many
times that they will stay dead for a long time.

Shoot first, ask questions later. And you don't listen to Rush?

In a combat zone, Oh-Hell-Yes you shoot first, no time to think about
anything else but pulling the trigger first and often.  Thats how you win
the conflict, you kill the enemy.  Kinda like baseball, who scores most
often, wins.

No, I do not listen to Rush.

About a year ago I read an interesting article about the fighting in
Iraq. An American solider explained that under the rules of engagement
he must follow, there were at least 4 or 5 steps he had to take first
before he was supposed to pull the trigger.  These steps were designed
to minimize injury to civilians and/or to minimize losses due to
friendly fire.

This soldier explained that insurgents and terrorists do not follow
such rules.  They aim to kill first.  They way he described it,
American soldiers were going into combat with at least one arm tied
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So maybe immoral people have some adventage, not only in a war, but in
general.  But that certainly doesn't mean we have to behave like that
also.-

You raise some good points.  However I think it is important to note
that American men and women are going into battle with one hand tied
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On Jul 9, 10:46 am, fattuc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:





On Jul 9, 1:06 am, Crisstti <crissttigalda... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 8, 9:44 am, fattuc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:

On Jul 7, 4:03 pm, Crisstti <crissttigalda... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Jul 4, 10:05 pm, fattuc... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:

On Jul 4, 2:56 pm, "Frank from Deeetroit" <dadurwe... at (no spam) voyager..net
wrote:

"O'Leary III" <mootbowowohjdan1 at (no spam) ;wjfhdr.com> wrote in message

news:y-OdnaPKJIRU8fDVnZ2dnUVZ_judnZ2d at (no spam) comcast.com...

Frank from Deeetroit wrote:

Well hell-fuckin-o.  Of course I do not know if they are insurgents or
Taliban.  I am retired Deeeetroit area police officer who can tell who is
a criminal or not.    I fully trust the honorable men and women of our
voluntary military and the other members of the Coalition to find out and
kill the terrorist insurgents and Taliban members.  Shoot em so many
times that they will stay dead for a long time.

Shoot first, ask questions later. And you don't listen to Rush?

In a combat zone, Oh-Hell-Yes you shoot first, no time to think about
anything else but pulling the trigger first and often.  Thats how you win
the conflict, you kill the enemy.  Kinda like baseball, who scores most
often, wins.

No, I do not listen to Rush.

About a year ago I read an interesting article about the fighting in
Iraq. An American solider explained that under the rules of engagement
he must follow, there were at least 4 or 5 steps he had to take first
before he was supposed to pull the trigger.  These steps were designed
to minimize injury to civilians and/or to minimize losses due to
friendly fire.

This soldier explained that insurgents and terrorists do not follow
such rules.  They aim to kill first.  They way he described it,
American soldiers were going into combat with at least one arm tied
behind their backs.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

So maybe immoral people have some adventage, not only in a war, but in
general.  But that certainly doesn't mean we have to behave like that
also.-

You raise some good points.  However I think it is important to note
that American men and women are going into battle with one hand tied
behind their backs.  (do you understand that English expression?)-

Sure.  It's the same in Spanish.- Hide quoted text -

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Really?  Would you mind telling us tne Spanish please.- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry for taking this long to answer.  I've been crazy with exams...
Well, I think I was just confused.  When you asked how it's said in
Spanish, I found I didn't know (!).  I asked my mom and she thinks
there isn't an equivalent in Spanish.  Funny, but the English
expression seemed so clear to me that I assumed there was a Spanish
equivalent.