On Jul 6, 5:54 am, "Keith Edgerley" <edgerley... at (no spam) bluewin.ch> wrote:
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 "Beth/David (26D)" <dshermanmu... at (no spam) nyc.rr.com> wrote:

On Jul 4, 11:23 am, Thanatos <atro... at (no spam) mac.com> wrote:

It definitely means repeat. I could mean repeat the first measure in
the second measure, but that would only cll for a sign that looks like
a percentage symbol: % (except with dots instead of circles.

Yeah, I've seen those in this score, too, and I know what they mean.
This is evidently something different.

What I think you have here is a 2 measure phrase that the composer
wished to repeat a few times. If you look ahead in the score, are the
next measures blank in the harp?

Yes, as a matter of fact, they are. Although it's hard to tell what that
means in this case, since Goldsmith doesn't write in full measure rests.
If an instrument isn't playing in a particular passage, he leaves the
measures blank as a matter of course (probably because writing rests by
hand is tedious), so I don't know if the measures are blank because the
harp is resting following the Bis or if the Bis indicates that the harp
should be repeating those measures in the blank spaces.

If you look at the bottom of the page, you will see bars 59 and 60 are
bracketed, suggesting that the BIS refers to the whole instrumentation of
that passage and is just placed squarely in the middle of the page.

Bars 61 ff. then follow on.

Although bis means twice,  I should think that here it is probably used to
mean repeat as required depending on timing.

Then why wouldn't he have said "Vamp till ready"?

Didn't mean to bore you. Just thought you'd be interested.

Didn't mean to bore you. Just thought you'd be interested.

Not boring at all.

Nice to read something about the making of music.... some of us in the
film score group even enjoy parsing the music....

Except for westerns.

Nici, you webbed toe wonder, how nice to see you again. Take your
hand off my knee.

I agree with your disagreement of the other persons agreement (who's
on first).

The second version of ALIEN's opening sequence if better
and suits the mood EXACTLY. One of the few times that Scott knew what
he was talking about with a soundtrack.

I'm content with Alien as is... right down to Hanson's Romantic
Symphony at the very end. Always have been. That music was such a
burst of emotional release and comfort much needed afer going through
what ws probably the last REALLY scary movie made in the last few
decades.

On Jul 6, 1:41 pm, The Scarlet Parsnip
The_Scarlet_Pars... at (no spam) carrots.com> wrote:
Didn't mean to bore you. Just thought you'd be interested.

Not boring at all.

Nice to read something about the making of music.... some of us in the
film score group even enjoy parsing the music....

Except for westerns.

;-)

The Scarlet Parsnip <The_Scarlet_Parsnip at (no spam) carrots.com> wrote:


Nici, you webbed toe wonder, how nice to see you again. Take your
hand off my knee.

Sorry. I thought you were someone else. It's dark here.

I agree with your disagreement of the other persons agreement (who's
on first).

Then we agree.

The second version of ALIEN's opening sequence if better
and suits the mood EXACTLY. One of the few times that Scott knew what
he was talking about with a soundtrack.

Yes, it said the mood very well. I know Goldsmith said he originally
didn't want to "give it all away" at the beginning and had a different
approach, but since the movie required a considerable set-up, the creepy
opening music didn't give away all that much. It's nice to have all the
Main Title versions on the new Intrada release for comparison.

I'm content with Alien as is... right down to Hanson's Romantic
Symphony at the very end. Always have been. That music was such a
burst of emotional release and comfort much needed afer going through
what ws probably the last REALLY scary movie made in the last few
decades.


It's a good movie. I'd still be interested in a DVD release with
Goldsmith's score as originally intended in place. Would be very
interesting to have both versions available. And since they did it for
GETAWAY, I think such an ALIEN release down the road is not all that
improbable. The rights are there, and Goldsmith is a more prominent
composer than Jerry Fielding.