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| KØHB... |
Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:34 pm |
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I have a 2005 Evinrude ETec 90HP. Had it since new and love the engine. For
the first three years of use, the WOT top RPM's (turning a Viper 19-pitch
stainless prop) were right at 5200RPM. This gave good performance when I needed
it (although I usually cruise around 3800-4000 RPM) and I was happy with that.
Last fall I took the engine to the dealer to do the 3-year checkup recommended
by Evinrude. They did the usual stuff --- plugs, drain/fill lower unit, check
water pump, etc. Also reflashed the computer with the latest firmware.
I've had the boat out a couple times on smaller lakes this spring, but today was
the first time that I had a chance to make a high speed run down a long lake. I
was totally surprised to find my WOT RPM's have risen to an honest 5600.
Absolutely nothing has changed physically..... same boat, same prop, same load
of fishing stuff, and I had a full load of fuel.
Were there some "performance enhancements" to the firmware between 2005 (when
the motor was built) and last fall? I was happy with the motor before, but now
it REALLY sparkles.
Hans/MN
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Come sit by the fire and warm your bones. Share a bracing drink and a few tales.
"The wind was picking up, the bite was cold, my hands were numb, nose was
running, I had to pee, and I was thinking of heading for the dock, when...."
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:08 pm |
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On Jun 25, 5:20 pm, "KØHB" <groupk... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: OK, I've had several more outings since the first post, and this increase is
REAL. I consistently get 200-300 more RPM's and a corresponding increase in GPS
MPH. This is with the boat fully loaded, all equipment, full of fuel, etc..
Absolutely nothing has changed in this rig except for the 3-year maintenance
(which included reflashing the firmware.
I'm considering a more aggressive prop!
Hans/MN
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Come sit by the fire and warm your bones. Share a bracing drink and a few tales.
"The wind was picking up, the bite was cold, my hands were numb, nose was
running, I had to pee, and I was thinking of heading for the dock, when....." |
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 1:26 pm |
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On Jun 25, 5:20 pm, "KØHB" <groupk... at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote:
Quote: OK, I've had several more outings since the first post, and this increase is
REAL. I consistently get 200-300 more RPM's and a corresponding increase in GPS
MPH. This is with the boat fully loaded, all equipment, full of fuel, etc..
Absolutely nothing has changed in this rig except for the 3-year maintenance
(which included reflashing the firmware.
I'm considering a more aggressive prop!
Hans/MN
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Come sit by the fire and warm your bones. Share a bracing drink and a few tales.
"The wind was picking up, the bite was cold, my hands were numb, nose was
running, I had to pee, and I was thinking of heading for the dock, when....."
I have been on Shortwaves Ranger with the 4 Blade. No question, if you
can go with a SS 4Blade, do it. And hopefully SW won't throw me
overboard next time we are out, but if I were you, I might email him
and see if he can point you in the right direction.. he knows guys. He
won't steer you wrong... |
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| Short Wave Sportfishing... |
Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:02 pm |
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On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 21:20:16 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net>
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Quote: I'm considering a more aggressive prop!
You need to be careful with that as I'm sure you know.
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
By the by, your 90 ETEC is about as perfect an technology/engine
combination as there ever has been. I hear comments from guys all the
time about the 90 ETEC and it's been nothing but superlatives. |
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| Short Wave Sportfishing... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:11 pm |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:54:15 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net>
wrote:
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:7dr764t8di4srm9639qda1j41uo96qlmet at (no spam) 4ax.com...
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Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
It's a 2005, about 400 hours on it. The invoice for the "3-year checkup" only
shows changed lower unit lube, changed fuel filter, inspected plugs,
inspected/replaced water pump rotor, reflashed computer with 3 updates. No
comment about any other adjustments or replacements or deflector pins. "See you
in three more years"
Then it was the reflash.
Mine is being done this week along with a new hardtop for my T-top. I
have a 2006 200 HO which is the 90 degree block. Originally, I had a
clock problem - the clock would reset itself to zero after a couple of
hours. Turns out, the reflash when I bought the engine was the wrong
software package (60 degree instead of 90 degree) - confused the hell
out of the computer. :>)
Once they straightened that out, Whoo Hoo!!
Ah - well - back to the prop.
Originally I had a 20" shaft 200 FICHT, 14.5/21p prop that the boat
came with. It worked great. Then I bought the ETEC as a repower and
put a 14.5/19p prop three blade - that worked fine, but I felt I
wasn't getting the same "bite" - my dealer's tech recommended I try a
four blade and the difference was amazing.
I can top end out at 55 and cruise very comfortably 3.8/4K rpm at 32
mph.
Glad to see another ETEC owner hanging around. :>) |
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| Short Wave Sportfishing... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:17 pm |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Quote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect. |
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| HK... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:25 pm |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh. |
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| Calif Bill... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:32 pm |
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"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:2bc864dtfq3adon0dvu9bmev2stlfga16v at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Front or read deflector shield. Oops. You said pins. |
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| Short Wave Sportfishing... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:35 pm |
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:11 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Quote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh.
Actually, it's my turn to look stupid.
I meant to say diffuser pins.
Sorry. |
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| Reginald P. Smithers III... |
Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:51 pm |
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Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:11 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in message
news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh.
Actually, it's my turn to look stupid.
I meant to say diffuser pins.
Sorry.
Do they diffuse? |
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| DK... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:25 pm |
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Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Quote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:11 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in
message news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end
will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in
certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh.
Actually, it's my turn to look stupid.
I meant to say diffuser pins.
Sorry.
Do they diffuse?
Like a Swiss watch. |
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| John H.... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:45 pm |
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On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:25:19 -0400, DK <intrceptor at (no spam) ggggmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:11 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB" <groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in
message news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end
will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in
certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh.
Actually, it's my turn to look stupid.
I meant to say diffuser pins.
Sorry.
Do they diffuse?
Like a Swiss watch.
Speaking of which, I'm sad that the latest BoatUS magazine didn't sing the
praises of my Wenger Swiss Army Watch. Hell, it's spent more hours in the
Chesapeake Bay than some boats I know of, and it's still ticking. Or
purring, or whatever they do. I can't hear 'em anyway. |
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| Don White... |
Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 9:29 pm |
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"John H." <salmonbait at (no spam) removegmail.com> wrote in message
news:992b64l32tgqmlpod3fed37e04gc7oef9u at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 20:25:19 -0400, DK <intrceptor at (no spam) ggggmail.com> wrote:
Reginald P. Smithers III wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 20:25:11 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net> wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:34:02 -0400, HK <payer33859 at (no spam) mypacks.net
wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 15:37:11 -0000, "KØHB"
groupk0hb at (no spam) earthlink.net
wrote:
"Short Wave Sportfishing" <email at (no spam) swsportsremove.org> wrote in
message news:jqd5645l5iajk7crlit975fdpoeiem044b at (no spam) 4ax.com...
If I were you, I might consider SS four blade - your top end
will stay
about the same, but oh my gosh, the acceleration is outstanding.
I'm currently running a 3-blade Viper SS, 19 pitch.
Do what I did - stick with the same pitch only four blade.
Out of curiosity, how old is your engine? I just heard something
today kind of interesting - they changed the deflector pins in
certain
2006 engines - don't know if the 90 was covered in the change.
That could account for the increase in performance also.
Deflector pins? What, please, are these, and what do they do?
They are deflector pins and they deflect.
Ahhhhhhh.
Actually, it's my turn to look stupid.
I meant to say diffuser pins.
Sorry.
Do they diffuse?
Like a Swiss watch.
Speaking of which, I'm sad that the latest BoatUS magazine didn't sing the
praises of my Wenger Swiss Army Watch. Hell, it's spent more hours in the
Chesapeake Bay than some boats I know of, and it's still ticking. Or
purring, or whatever they do. I can't hear 'em anyway.
If you knew anything about the Swiss Army watches, you'd know that the
Victorinox version is superior.
http://www.swissarmy.com/timepieces/Pages/Default.aspx?category=timepieces& |
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