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| highlands hunter... |
 Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:57 pm |
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I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott |
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| Steve at (no spam) OutdoorFrontiers... |
| Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 8:56 pm |
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"highlands hunter" <highlands_hunter at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote in message
news:c810ea54-284d-4b2e-8978-6cd0943d1a98 at (no spam) i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
Hi Scott,
Go to
http://www.winchester.com/products/catalog/comparerifle.aspx?symbol=X76239&atype=1&ctype=1&action=1
and you'll see that ballistically, they're very similar in downrange energy,
comparing a 150 grain 30-30 and a 123 grain 7.62x39.
I know a couple guys that use them and they appear to kill whitetail deer
quite dead. The only problem is finding one that offers a reasonable degree
of accuracy.
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Steve at (no spam) OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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| Natman... |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 10:59 am |
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:25 -0700, highlands hunter
<highlands_hunter at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
Quote: I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
Ballistically the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are similar, although I think
a ~125 grain slug is awfully light for 30 caliber, so I'd give a
slight edge to the 30-30. .
The real difference is in the rifles. A Winchester or Marlin lever
action is much lighter, far better handling and a ***LOT*** better
made than any variation of SKS, especially the Chinese version. By the
time you get the SKS legal with a magazine small enough for hunting it
won't be a whole lot cheaper than a good used Marlin 336. |
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| highlands hunter... |
| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 11:28 am |
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On May 13, 11:59 am, Natman <nat_m... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:25 -0700, highlands hunter
highlands_hun... at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
Ballistically the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are similar, although I think
a ~125 grain slug is awfully light for 30 caliber, so I'd give a
slight edge to the 30-30. .
The real difference is in the rifles. A Winchester or Marlin lever
action is much lighter, far better handling and a ***LOT*** better
made than any variation of SKS, especially the Chinese version. By the
time you get the SKS legal with a magazine small enough for hunting it
won't be a whole lot cheaper than a good used Marlin 336.
Maybe it depensd where and what you buy. S.I.R. in Winnepeg sells a
Russian SKS with the legal clip for Canada (5 shots) for $199. I
understand that the Chinese SKS sells cheaper.
http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.php?product_id=410050&cat_id=10&subcat_id=312&PHPSESSID=78529f37f0e687a1d23d39c265c0ed5a |
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| Bill Larkins... |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:34 am |
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I've been trying to work up 150 grain soft point hand loads for my
7.62x39 for deer. Seems to shoot pretty well, and I favor the 150 grain
over 123 grain bullets for deer.
Natman wrote:
Quote: Ballistically the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are similar, although I think
a ~125 grain slug is awfully light for 30 caliber, so I'd give a
slight edge to the 30-30. .
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| Natman... |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:57 am |
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:28:37 -0700, highlands hunter
<highlands_hunter at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
Quote: On May 13, 11:59 am, Natman <nat_m... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:25 -0700, highlands hunter
highlands_hun... at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
Ballistically the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are similar, although I think
a ~125 grain slug is awfully light for 30 caliber, so I'd give a
slight edge to the 30-30. .
The real difference is in the rifles. A Winchester or Marlin lever
action is much lighter, far better handling and a ***LOT*** better
made than any variation of SKS, especially the Chinese version. By the
time you get the SKS legal with a magazine small enough for hunting it
won't be a whole lot cheaper than a good used Marlin 336.
Maybe it depensd where and what you buy. S.I.R. in Winnepeg sells a
Russian SKS with the legal clip for Canada (5 shots) for $199. I
understand that the Chinese SKS sells cheaper.
http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.php?product_id=410050&cat_id=10&subcat_id=312&PHPSESSID=78529f37f0e687a1d23d39c265c0ed5a
Fair enough, but you can get a BRAND NEW, made in USA Marlin 336 with
a warranty for $350 and it's not hard to find a good used one for
$200-250. Which was my point. |
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| highlands hunter... |
| Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:57 pm |
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On May 15, 11:57 am, Natman <nat_m... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:28:37 -0700, highlands hunter
highlands_hun... at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
On May 13, 11:59 am, Natman <nat_m... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 12:57:25 -0700, highlands hunter
highlands_hun... at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
Ballistically the 7.62x39 and the 30-30 are similar, although I think
a ~125 grain slug is awfully light for 30 caliber, so I'd give a
slight edge to the 30-30. .
The real difference is in the rifles. A Winchester or Marlin lever
action is much lighter, far better handling and a ***LOT*** better
made than any variation of SKS, especially the Chinese version. By the
time you get the SKS legal with a magazine small enough for hunting it
won't be a whole lot cheaper than a good used Marlin 336.
Maybe it depensd where and what you buy. S.I.R. in Winnepeg sells a
Russian SKS with the legal clip for Canada (5 shots) for $199. I
understand that the Chinese SKS sells cheaper.
http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.php?product_id=410050&cat_id=10&....
Fair enough, but you can get a BRAND NEW, made in USA Marlin 336 with
a warranty for $350 and it's not hard to find a good used one for
$200-250. Which was my point.- Hide quoted text -
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Good point, but the Marlin 336C retails new here for $527.94 (http://
www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_fall08/hunting/marlin.pdf). Strange the
price is so much higher, esp. with the Cdn dollar at par with the US.
Maybe I should find a way to import from the US. |
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| Natman... |
| Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:13 am |
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On Thu, 15 May 2008 16:57:50 -0700, highlands hunter
<highlands_hunter at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote:
Quote: On May 15, 11:57 am, Natman <nat_m... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2008 09:28:37 -0700, highlands hunter
Maybe it depensd where and what you buy. S.I.R. in Winnepeg sells a
Russian SKS with the legal clip for Canada (5 shots) for $199. I
understand that the Chinese SKS sells cheaper.
http://www.sirmailorder.ca/show_prod.php?product_id=410050&cat_id=10&...
Fair enough, but you can get a BRAND NEW, made in USA Marlin 336 with
a warranty for $350 and it's not hard to find a good used one for
$200-250. Which was my point.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Good point, but the Marlin 336C retails new here for $527.94 (http://
www.lebaron.ca/pdf_files_fall08/hunting/marlin.pdf). Strange the
price is so much higher, esp. with the Cdn dollar at par with the US.
Maybe I should find a way to import from the US.
A slight case of apples and oranges. The 336C is the deluxe walnut
stock model, which sells for $450-500. The $350 model is the Walmart
special, with a "hardwood" stock. |
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| mnmarlin... |
| Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 12:45 pm |
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"highlands hunter" <highlands_hunter at (no spam) ROGERS.COM> wrote in message
news:c810ea54-284d-4b2e-8978-6cd0943d1a98 at (no spam) i36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
The cartridge is fine for whitetails as long as softpoint bullets are used,
some people want to use the surplus military full metal jacket bullets and
they don't work very well on deer. The other issue is, as other posters
have stated, many of the SKS rifles shoot horribly - my nephew hunted with
his for years and complained that he was a bad shooter, took him to the
range, we couldn't hit a 3 foot square target from 25 yards consistently. I
don't think there was any rifling left in the barrel.
tad |
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| greers... |
| Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 3:29 pm |
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On May 12, 3:57 pm, highlands hunter <highlands_hun... at (no spam) ROGERS.COM>
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Quote: I understand in the US that the SKS 7.62x39mm is becoming a popular
rifle for hunting deer. I am looking at another rifle for hunting
deer/bear and was wondering how this so-called poor man's rifle stacks
up against the .30/.30 or other rifles?
Thanks,
Scott
My opinion is that 7.62 x 39 round is usable for deer, possibly
marginal for bear. And the SKS is usable also, but there are so many
other better (and nicer looking) choices, assuming the main purpose is
hunting. Pleny of used lever action, bolt actions, or single shots
available in the same price range. I am not a fan of semiauto for a
primary hunting rifle. Too easy for a new round to go into the
chamber after a shot and me to temporarily forget that it did, with
other distractions or excitement going on. |
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