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Robert Trudell
Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 1:11 am
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Cheng Yinghua coaches Daniel Koscielski.

He covers the need to return to the backhand corner after hitting the forehand.
He stresses a consistent backhand service return. He teaches Daniel a loose
service grip. Finally he points out the key to forehand power is in the waist
turn.

http://members.aol.com/ttoutpost1/Cheng_Yinghua_Coaches_Daniel_Koscielskil.htm

--Rob
Javier Gonzalez
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 3:35 am
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Robert Trudell <ttoutpost1@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Cheng Yinghua coaches Daniel Koscielski.

He covers the need to return to the backhand corner after hitting the forehand.
He stresses a consistent backhand service return. He teaches Daniel a loose
service grip. Finally he points out the key to forehand power is in the waist
turn.

Thanks, great resource.

One thing that is bugging me, though, is the "topspin pendulum serve"
animated gif. The way I see it in the animation, the ball would go with
a mix of sidespin and backspin. What am I missing here?

Thank you in advance,

--
Javier Gonzalez Nicolini
Ingeniero Civil en Computacion - Universidad de Chile
Javier Gonzalez
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 11:09 am
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Robert Trudell <ttoutpost1@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
It's meant to look like backspin by design. There is a great amount
of both top and side spin. The key is the contact with the ball isn't
made until the upswing of the paddle. Letting the paddle hit my belly
dampens much of the upswing follow through.

Later, I'll see if I can slow the animation down a bit to make it more
visible.

So the ball comes in contact with the paddle when you look like you are
"recovering" from the "backspin serve"? Neat :)

--
Javier Gonzalez Nicolini
Ingeniero Civil en Computacion - Universidad de Chile
Robert Trudell
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:21 pm
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Javier Gonzalez <jagonzal@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote in message news:<ca73mn$30l$1@helcaraxe.dcc.uchile.cl>...
Quote:

Thanks, great resource.

One thing that is bugging me, though, is the "topspin pendulum serve"
animated gif. The way I see it in the animation, the ball would go with
a mix of sidespin and backspin. What am I missing here?

Thank you in advance,

It's meant to look like backspin by design. There is a great amount
of both top and side spin. The key is the contact with the ball isn't
made until the upswing of the paddle. Letting the paddle hit my belly
dampens much of the upswing follow through.

Later, I'll see if I can slow the animation down a bit to make it more
visible.

--Rob
Robert Trudell
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:21 pm
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Javier Gonzalez <jagonzal@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote in message news:<ca73mn$30l$1@helcaraxe.dcc.uchile.cl>...
Quote:

Thanks, great resource.

One thing that is bugging me, though, is the "topspin pendulum serve"
animated gif. The way I see it in the animation, the ball would go with
a mix of sidespin and backspin. What am I missing here?

Thank you in advance,

It's meant to look like backspin by design. There is a great amount
of both top and side spin. The key is the contact with the ball isn't
made until the upswing of the paddle. Letting the paddle hit my belly
dampens much of the upswing follow through.

Later, I'll see if I can slow the animation down a bit to make it more
visible.

--Rob
Robert Trudell
Posted: Wed Jun 09, 2004 2:23 pm
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Javier Gonzalez <jagonzal@dcc.uchile.cl> wrote in message news:<ca73mn$30l$1@helcaraxe.dcc.uchile.cl>...
Quote:

Thanks, great resource.

One thing that is bugging me, though, is the "topspin pendulum serve"
animated gif. The way I see it in the animation, the ball would go with
a mix of sidespin and backspin. What am I missing here?

Thank you in advance,

It's meant to look like backspin by design. There is a great amount
of both top and side spin. The key is the contact with the ball isn't
made until the upswing of the paddle. Letting the paddle hit my belly
dampens much of the upswing follow through.

Later, I'll see if I can slow the animation down a bit to make it more
visible.

--Rob
Javier Gonzalez
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 6:14 am
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Robert Trudell <ttoutpost1@aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
Yes. Here's a slow motion version. (5x)

http://members.aol.com/pingpongstar1/Top_Spin_Pendulum_Slow_Motion.gif

Perhaps I could do a higher speed capture to show a few extra frames.

Thank you! That's much clearer...

I am a recreational player, but that doesn't mean I can take my game a bit
more seriously than I do right now :)

Thanks again for the "new weapon" :)

--
Javier Gonzalez Nicolini
Ingeniero Civil en Computacion - Universidad de Chile
Robert Trudell
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 8:05 am
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Quote:
So the ball comes in contact with the paddle when you look like you are
"recovering" from the "backspin serve"? Neat :)

--
Javier Gonzalez Nicolini

Yes. Here's a slow motion version. (5x)

http://members.aol.com/pingpongstar1/Top_Spin_Pendulum_Slow_Motion.gif

Perhaps I could do a higher speed capture to show a few extra frames.

--Rob
http://members.aol.com/ttoutpost1
Robert Trudell
Posted: Thu Jun 10, 2004 10:33 pm
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Quote:
Thanks again for the "new weapon" Smile

Just remember to snap the blade up fast on the upswing.

--Rob
 
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