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| Fred |
 Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:47 pm |
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Anybody ever melt stick on wheel weights?
They seem to be available in the quantities I'm looking for.
I wonder what the adhesive does when it burns Will it interfere with
the smelting process |
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| Mark Bowers |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:08 am |
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Fred wrote:
Quote: Anybody ever melt stick on wheel weights?
They seem to be available in the quantities I'm looking for.
I wonder what the adhesive does when it burns Will it interfere with
the smelting process
With some beeswax for flux, the adhesives should just burn off or add
some residue to the skimmable dross on top of the melt. With lead as
heavy as it is, even steel tabs from the hammer-on weights float to the
top for easy skimming. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 2:46 am |
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Not a problem.
Watch for flash up when fluxing with bees wax. Cheap bees wax source:
hardware store toilet bowl seals. It's not the best wax but it works! |
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| Tom the Canuck |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:32 am |
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<lostyank54751@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140076004.082043.285250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Not a problem.
Watch for flash up when fluxing with bees wax. Cheap bees wax source:
hardware store toilet bowl seals. It's not the best wax but it works!
Damn, I like this group. Some plastic 'thingy' went down one
of my toilets. The toilet is non-functional to the point that I
put up a sign saying:
1) do NOT sh*t in it.
2) ladies do NOT use lots of TP.
Violators will be shot.
Survivors will be shot again.
(It was intended to be a joke, and will remain so)
In the next few days, my friend and I will be seeking
just such a ring. I just learned something new. I never
thought the ring in question was bees wax. Live and
learn, learn to live. We tried many things to remove
the clog, with no results. In the end it was pour acetone
down it to soften or dissolve the blockage or remove the
toilet to remove the obstacle by hand. The final consensus
was the removal by hand. I shall be seeking such a ring.
If I do this, should I become 'Lord of the Ring'? :-)
Tom the Canuck. |
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| Tom the Canuck |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:36 am |
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My kids used to love honey, until I told them
how bees make it. From then on, 'bee barf'
was not looked upon so favorably by them. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:47 am |
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Unless you've stumbled upon a high-end source, I think you'll find that
most of the wax toilet bowl rings being offered out there are made of
petrolatum. This material can be useful as an additive to clay when
preparing a mixture for use as a pressed nozzle in rockets.
Tom C. |
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| Tom the Canuck |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:15 pm |
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Thank you for the additional info.
<fargowest@cableone.net> wrote ...
Quote: Unless you've stumbled upon a high-end source, I think you'll find that
most of the wax toilet bowl rings being offered out there are made of
petrolatum. This material can be useful as an additive to clay when
preparing a mixture for use as a pressed nozzle in rockets.
Tom C.
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| POWDERBURNZ@YAHOO.COM |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:14 pm |
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Fred wrote:
Quote: Anybody ever melt stick on wheel weights?
They seem to be available in the quantities I'm looking for.
I wonder what the adhesive does when it burns Will it interfere with
the smelting process
I have melted them before for casting milling media. It works fine,
but be prepared for lots of black, smelly, potentially toxic fumes as
the ahesive burns off.
Fire in the hole!
POWDERBURNZ |
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| Don T |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:17 pm |
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See:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=toilet+seal+wax+ring+msds&btnG=Search
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Don Thompson
There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance.
~Goethe
"Tom the Canuck" <tvaus@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Quote: Thank you for the additional info.
fargowest@cableone.net> wrote ...
Unless you've stumbled upon a high-end source, I think you'll find that
most of the wax toilet bowl rings being offered out there are made of
petrolatum. This material can be useful as an additive to clay when
preparing a mixture for use as a pressed nozzle in rockets.
Tom C.
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| donald haarmann |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:07 pm |
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"Tom the Canuck" <tvaus@sympatico.ca
| My kids used to love honey, until I told them
| how bees make it. From then on, 'bee barf'
| was not looked upon so favorably by them.
--------
gaz of Khunsar: The Manna of Persia
White, sticky, and segmented stings of gaz are secreted from the last instar
stage of the jumping plant lice; Cyamophila astragalicola (Family Psyllidae,
subfamily Arytaininae, genus Cyamophila). The soft exudates harden, eventually
detach from the nymph’s body, and remain in the foliage Astragalus adscendens,
a perennial scrub.
Beginning in late August the gaz is harvested by striking the bush with a stick
and the thread like gaz particles are caught in a bowl. It is then mixed with sugar,
egg white, starch, and pistachios or almonds and sold as a traditional nougat like
confection.
Bahram Grami
Gaz of Khunsar: The Mana of Persia
Economic Botany 52(2) pp. 183-191. 1998
[For some unkown reason donald j haarmann is a
member of the Society for Economic Botany]
donald j haarmann
------------------------
Three guys -- a Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden,
and an American engineer - are working together one
day. They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out
of it.
"I will give each of you one wish, which is three wishes
total," says the Genie.
The Canadian says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a
farmer, and my son will also farm. I want the land to
be forever fertile in Canada." Pooooof! With the blink
of the Genie's eye, the land in Canada was forever
made fertile for farming.
Osama bin Ladin was amazed, so he said, "I want
a wall around Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran so that no
infidels, Jews or Americans can come into our
precious state." Pooooof! Again, with the blink of
the Genie's eye, there was a huge wall around
those countries.
The American engineer says, "I am very curious.
Please tell me more about this wall." The Genie
explains, "Well, it's about 5000 feet high, 500 feet
thick and completely surrounds the country.
Nothing can get in or out -- it's virtually
impenetrable."
The American engineer says, "Fill it with water." |
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| rickyd |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:26 pm |
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Tom,
Do you heat the clay nozzle mix up and then add the wax in a melted
form or I have heard it can be dissolved in a solvent first?
Rich |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:48 pm |
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Rich,
I was making a 1000 gm batch of bentonite based nozzle mix which
included 5% wax. For that batch, I weighed out 50 gms. of toilet bowl
wax, placed it in small (Campbell soup can) clean metal can, attached a
vice-grip to its lip (to serve as a handle) and heated the can (gently)
over a torch. This was done outside and yes, there's a hazard when
heating wax over an open flame. A bit of finesse gets the job done.
Once the wax was liquified, I took the flame source away and added
enough paint thinner (naptha) to fill the can to about the 3/4 point.
Stir well with a flat wooden stick and pour over the clay. Mix
thoroughly until clay is uniformly wetted. (Use enough solvent to
ensure complete wetting of the quantity of clay you're working with.)
Evaporation does the rest. When the wetted and now waxed clay had lost
enough solvent to become thick and dough-like, I riced it through 16
mesh and let it finish losing its solvent outside, spread across a
couple of cookie sheets.
I have read of some folks heating their clay in an oven and pouring the
melted wax into that heated mass and stirring. In my opinion, the
solvent method takes a bit longer, requires a solvent but affords you
greater control of the process. In the end, it's your choice.
Hope this helps.
Tom C. |
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| Mike Swisher |
| Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 12:51 pm |
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In article <eB7Jf.32242$id5.15699@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, donald
haarmann says...
Quote: Three guys -- a Canadian farmer, Osama bin Laden,
and an American engineer - are working together one
day. They come across a lantern and a Genie pops out
of it.
"I will give each of you one wish, which is three wishes
total," says the Genie.
The Canadian says, "I am a farmer, my dad was a
farmer, and my son will also farm. I want the land to
be forever fertile in Canada." Pooooof! With the blink
of the Genie's eye, the land in Canada was forever
made fertile for farming.
Osama bin Ladin was amazed, so he said, "I want
a wall around Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran so that no
infidels, Jews or Americans can come into our
precious state." Pooooof! Again, with the blink of
the Genie's eye, there was a huge wall around
those countries.
The American engineer says, "I am very curious.
Please tell me more about this wall." The Genie
explains, "Well, it's about 5000 feet high, 500 feet
thick and completely surrounds the country.
Nothing can get in or out -- it's virtually
impenetrable."
The American engineer says, "Fill it with water."
Your 'three wishes' story reminds me of another.
While spending his day off at the beach, a physician found a curious old bottle
washed up by the tide. He took it back to his car, and as he wiped it clean with
a rag a genie emerged.
The genie said, 'I'll give you three wishes - but you must know, that every wish
you make will go double for _______" (naming a prominent ambulance chaser).
The doctor said, "fair enough - for my first wish, I'd like this car to be a
brand new Bentley." The genie cautioned, "well, you know, ___ will get two," and
- there was a brand new Bentley.
The doctor then said, "for my second wish, I'd like there to be ten million
dollars in tax-free bank-quality municipal bearer bonds in the trunk. The genie
cautioned, "now, you know I'm going to give ______ twenty million," and - there
in the trunk were the ten million dollars' worth of bonds.
Finally the doctor said, "with all this good fortune I feel like doing something
charitable. For my third wish, I'd like to donate one of my kidneys..." |
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