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| BRH |
 Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:39 am |
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A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using. The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge.
I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
questions about how to go about it.
Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons? That would
require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact
match because of my clubs now being 3 years old. It also could end up
costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge. (Note: my irons have
graphite shafts. Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've seen
have steel shafts). My main purpose for the wedge will be for shots
50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy rough. I
want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60 yards with some
spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge for these types of
shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot just isn't working well.
If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
make/model you would recommend, and why? I'd prefer something with not
a lot of bounce. My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping this
will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.
Thanks! |
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| Billy Hutchison |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:12 am |
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If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
that shot. |
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| Howard Brazee |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:16 pm |
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On 28-Apr-2005, "Billy Hutchison" <billy.hutchison@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
that shot.
It's easier to hit a lob wedge out of hardpan than it is to hit a sand wedge out
of hard pan. Maybe you need a lob wedge with less bounce. I don't play with
fluffy sand much, so I only want one wedge with much bounce.
Still, my pitching wedge has less bounce than either and gets my nod almost
always when I'm on such a surface. Besides, that's the club that I do most of
my pitching practice with and thus gives me my most predictable results. |
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| David Geesaman |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:41 pm |
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"Billy Hutchison" <billy.hutchison@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1114703659.542595.312350@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Quote: If you learn how to hit a lob wedge out of a thin lie or hardpan, give
me a call and tell me how you do it. I still can't figure out how to do
that shot.
Keep your hands ahead, and don't attempt to hit it high. Trust the
extra spin to take care of the lower trajectory.
Dave |
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| David Geesaman |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 12:46 pm |
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<BRH> wrote in message news:yOydnfr8pOpgRe3fRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
Quote: A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using. The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge. I
now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
questions about how to go about it.
Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons? That would
require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact match
because of my clubs now being 3 years old.
Generally, lob wedges are similar to GW and SW as far as length/lie are
concerned. I wouldn't worry about matching the shaft exactly, since in
short wedges the shaft isn't critical and you won't feel the difference. So
rely on what feels good to you.
Cleveland has a good line of wedges, and there are many 60° models that
come in low bounce (mine is, as are nearly all of the ones I see stocked in
pro shops).
Just don't expect this club to save you strokes easily - in most cases,
I can hit a 1/2 swing gap wedge more accurately than a 3/4 or full swing lob
wedge, and like you I don't feel either one is a strong shot for me. So I
have both options, and really it's not an easy shot to make with any club.
It's just that with the lob wedge it will probably require more practice to
execute consistently. My use of the lob wedge always improves when I go to
the local pitch-n-putt and carry my putter and LW only, where the holes are
35-70y long.
Dave |
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| Joe |
| Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 8:30 pm |
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BRH wrote:
Quote: A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using. The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge. I
now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
questions about how to go about it.
Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons? That would
require another custom made club and probably would not be an exact
match because of my clubs now being 3 years old. It also could end up
costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge. (Note: my irons have
graphite shafts. Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've seen
have steel shafts). My main purpose for the wedge will be for shots
50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy rough. I
want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60 yards with some
spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge for these types of
shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot just isn't working well.
If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
make/model you would recommend, and why? I'd prefer something with not
a lot of bounce. My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping this
will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.
Thanks!
My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds. It has two degrees
of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight. This is very much
different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted around
D2. As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.
This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
green to about 50 yards. You need to spend time with it and learn to
trust it. You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that take
an easy touch need to be executed confidently. As far as hardpan goes,
that is a tough shot. It really needs a very low to zero bounce and
frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my PW
which has 0 bounce.
In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal club
in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.
Joe |
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| BRH |
| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 7:11 pm |
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Joe wrote:
Quote: BRH wrote:
A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using. The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap Wedge.
I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I have a few
questions about how to go about it.
Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons? That
would require another custom made club and probably would not be an
exact match because of my clubs now being 3 years old. It also could
end up costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge. (Note: my irons
have graphite shafts. Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that I've
seen have steel shafts). My main purpose for the wedge will be for
shots 50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy
rough. I want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60
yards with some spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge
for these types of shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot
just isn't working well.
If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
make/model you would recommend, and why? I'd prefer something with
not a lot of bounce. My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping
this will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.
Thanks!
My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds. It has two degrees
of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight. This is very much
different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted around
D2. As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.
This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
green to about 50 yards. You need to spend time with it and learn to
trust it. You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that take
an easy touch need to be executed confidently. As far as hardpan goes,
that is a tough shot. It really needs a very low to zero bounce and
frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my PW
which has 0 bounce.
In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal club
in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.
Joe
Thanks for the feedback. I picked up a Titlist Vokey Steel-milled 60*
wedge today, and will use it on-course for the first time tomorrow.
BTW -- I never said that I was intending to use it on hard-pan. Tight
Lies - yes- but not hardpan. |
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| Joe |
| Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 10:25 pm |
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BRH wrote:
Quote: Joe wrote:
BRH wrote:
A few years back, I had a set of irons custom made for me, which I'm
currently using. The set went from 4I to SW and included a Gap
Wedge. I now want to add a 60 degree wedge or LW to my bag, and I
have a few questions about how to go about it.
Is it best to have the 60 degree wedge match my other irons? That
would require another custom made club and probably would not be an
exact match because of my clubs now being 3 years old. It also could
end up costing more than an "off the shelf" wedge. (Note: my irons
have graphite shafts. Most "off the shelf" 60 degree wedges that
I've seen have steel shafts). My main purpose for the wedge will be
for shots 50-60 yards and in, from anything like tight lies to heavy
rough. I want to be able to basically hit a full shot from 50-60
yards with some spin so it stops short. I currently use my gap wedge
for these types of shots. Trying to baby it with a half or 3/4 shot
just isn't working well.
If there's really no reason to match it to my existing irons, what
make/model you would recommend, and why? I'd prefer something with
not a lot of bounce. My current handicap is about 20, and I'm hoping
this will improve my short game, which costs me the most strokes.
Thanks!
My LW is my personal "Go To" club inside of 50 yds. It has two
degrees of bounce and and a steel shaft E2 swing weight. This is very
much different than the rest of my sticks which are graphite weighted
around D2. As some one else said, it is your personal feel that matters.
This is a very versatile club anywhere from a couple of feet off the
green to about 50 yards. You need to spend time with it and learn to
trust it. You need to stay aggressive with it and those shots that
take an easy touch need to be executed confidently. As far as hardpan
goes, that is a tough shot. It really needs a very low to zero bounce
and frankly if it is truly bare hard ground or clay, I would go to my
PW which has 0 bounce.
In my opinion the LW is like a putter in that it is a very personal
club in terms of feel and it takes practice to get the feel.
Joe
Thanks for the feedback. I picked up a Titlist Vokey Steel-milled 60*
wedge today, and will use it on-course for the first time tomorrow.
BTW -- I never said that I was intending to use it on hard-pan. Tight
Lies - yes- but not hardpan.
You are right, I picked up the hard pan thought from another reply.
I'm not sure that I would just put it in the bag and use it on course
tomorrow. Give it at least 20 minutes practise first  It takes a
little getting used to.
Joe |
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| JE Wesch |
| Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 11:11 am |
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My buddy who could "blade" a lob wedge with the best of us sprung for the
"F2" 60 degree. Got bit by the hype and desperation.
BUT he now kills me inside 50 yards and out of close up bunkers - just sets
up straight or with very little open and flops it on the green, just like
the TV ads. Says it took a bit of practice.
I have tried it and don't get the results in terms of distance control but
it does seem to deliver straight high shots... Looks weird and seems to
need to be set up more forward than a usual wedge shot. Anybody else want
to admit buying one?
--
Jerry
Jerry E. Wesch
Chicago |
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