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| zach |
 Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:07 am |
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http://www.nbc11.com/news/4160338/detail.html
You'd think that if they wanted to solve the problem, they would have
addressed the root causes of the false alarms, rather than throw the
baby out with the bath water.
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| John Davies |
| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm |
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 13:07:39 +0000 (UTC), "zach"
<victorthecleaner@gmail.com> wrote:
#http://www.nbc11.com/news/4160338/detail.html
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#You'd think that if they wanted to solve the problem, they would have
#addressed the root causes of the false alarms, rather than throw the
#baby out with the bath water.
Recently the local Spokane WA news announced that due to budget cuts
the police would not be investigating "petty crimes". Talk about an
open invitation to crooks! What are the idiots at the news stattion
thinking?
John
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| michaelb8309@yahoo.com |
| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm |
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zach wrote:
# http://www.nbc11.com/news/4160338/detail.html
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# You'd think that if they wanted to solve the problem, they would have
# addressed the root causes of the false alarms, rather than throw the
# baby out with the bath water.
Larger cities than Fremont, CA, have already adopted this policy. The
bad guys already know the cops are slow to respond to burglary alarm
calls because 98-99% are false - more correctly, nuisance - alarms.
The root cause of nuisance alarms is user error. Many cities have
tried assessing fines for non-productive alarm responses without
notable success, except to the degree that the financially pinched user
eventually stops arming his system altogether. The long term answer
will be remote monitoring where the burglar alarm companies can view
security webcams and tell the 911 operator there is a crime in
progress, provide descriptions, forward real time imaging to the PD,
etc. Throw in a little target hardening to lengthen the duration of
the crime and nuisance alarm rates go down and criminal apprehensions
go up. All it takes is money... Be well.
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| SnipeUNblue |
| Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2005 5:26 pm |
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Gee??? Ya think maybe we should make an exception for not answering alarms from
gun stores??? They wonder why they have problems in CA.
Snipe
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| Guest |
| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:19 am |
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Even stranger is that the newspaper stories to date have not identified
a single Federal firearms felony charge being filed. Isn't armed robbery
of firearms from an FFL some kind of Federal crime?
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Gee Wiz, I thought this only happened durring the Clinton
Administration!
Bill
http://www.angelfire.com/ny3/BILLNY/index.html
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| zach |
| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:19 am |
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# Fremont originally was a bunch of separate townships: Niles, Mission
# San Jose, Centerville, Irvington, and Warm Springs, which were
# incorporated into The City of Fremont in 1956.
# Anyhow as far as growing up around here, and later working in
Fremont,
# it developed the reputation as a fairly rough gang-banger town, and
# they had to close the Central Mall for a period of time, several
# years, because of fights and stuff. (I believe it's reopened now
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# extensive renovation.)
I recall Fremont's gang problem when I worked on that side of the Bay
in the early '90s. Never liked it there. Like one big strip mall.
# -keith in Mtn. View
# (Mountain View has a similar blue-collar cultural background, as a
# former Naval Air-Station town; rough and mixed.)
I live in Mountain View, too. Sad to see the lone gun store now selling
oriental rugs. The bars on the windows and the "GUNS" neon sign did
seem out of place here (especially after they sunk millions into
redoing downtown to look even more snobbish than it was before), which
means this area has been getting to me over the years.... still, this
is about as far south on the Peninsula as I like. It's nice enough.
Zach
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| Tim Douglass |
| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:20 pm |
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 10:19:20 +0000 (UTC), "zach"
<victorthecleaner@gmail.com> wrote:
#I live in Mountain View, too. Sad to see the lone gun store now selling
#oriental rugs. The bars on the windows and the "GUNS" neon sign did
#seem out of place here (especially after they sunk millions into
#redoing downtown to look even more snobbish than it was before), which
#means this area has been getting to me over the years.... still, this
#is about as far south on the Peninsula as I like. It's nice enough.
Change the sign to read "Self confidence restoration and personal
security systems".
Tim Douglass
http://www.DouglassClan.com
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| Pumbaa |
| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:20 pm |
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Perhaps a State representative should introduce a law that required cops to
quickly respond to an alarm from a gun store. I mean I can see that a
robbery of a gun store is more serious than a robbery of a video store. I
can't shoot or rob someone even with a crappy Hollywood movie. A gun store
robbery would be a priority if police wanted to keep guns out of the hands
of criminals. I fear they only want to keep them out of the hands of honest
people that have acquired them legally.
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| David E. Powell |
| Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2005 5:20 pm |
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"John Davies" said....
#Recently the local Spokane WA news announced that due to budget cuts
#the police would not be investigating "petty crimes". Talk about an
#open invitation to crooks! What are the idiots at the news stattion
#thinking?
#John
They were thinking of how to help....
Who they were helping, now that is the question.
Dave
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| HARDWARE |
| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:39 am |
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zach wrote:
Quote: ...
One would think the police would respond to a gun shop alarm figuring
that the guns stolen would posibly be used against them ( just a
thought)...Kevin
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| zach |
| Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 4:39 am |
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Pumbaa wrote:
# Perhaps a State representative should introduce a law that required
cops to
# quickly respond to an alarm from a gun store. I mean I can see that
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# robbery of a gun store is more serious than a robbery of a video
store. I
# can't shoot or rob someone even with a crappy Hollywood movie. A
gun store
# robbery would be a priority if police wanted to keep guns out of the
hands
# of criminals. I fear they only want to keep them out of the hands of
honest
# people that have acquired them legally.
The simpler thing would be for them to close the gun stores down... for
the children, of course. That is all too possible here.
Zach
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| user |
| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:28 pm |
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# We had a pawn shop strongarmed by 4 gang members in Minneapolis. 76 guns
# stolen according to reports in the paper, about 10 recovered thusfar, some
# from a local high school. Our is a strange story; it's hard to see how
# ~130+ lbs of guns get stolen in a smash-and-grab robbery (the
# employees/owners were maced). Initial reports had it at 10 guns.
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# Even stranger is that the newspaper stories to date have not identified a
# single Federal firearms felony charge being filed. Isn't armed robbery of
# firearms from an FFL some kind of Federal crime?
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# You'd think that 70-some counts of Federal firearms charges would be worth
# about six lifetimes in prison and that prospect would have the first person
# caught in connection with this willing to turn in his own momma for a deal.
Hi,
it's much to dangerous for the BATFE to go after criminals when they can
spend their time convincing people to cut off a shotgun barrel 1/2" to
short so they can kill his wife and son... or attack churches and burn
to death the occupants over approximately 110$/person in taxes (and
that's accepting the BATFE's numbers on how many untaxed firearms there
were).
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| Sully |
| Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:18 am |
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What?
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