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 Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 12:15 am |
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Adjusting your sights to how the gun shoots off a rest is a sure-fire
way to make sure your sights are NOT correct. Any weapon, rifles
included, will shoot "away" from the rest.
In order to achieve accuracy and precision with a handgun while
sighting in, you have to duplicate the grip conditions that are present
when you shoot off hand. The best way to do this is to shoot from a
seated position... knees up, knees together, feet splayed out some,
and your back against some kind of rest, like a tree or post. Rest
your fore-arms on your knees, with your wrists out in front of your
knees. Grip the gun in the same way you would if you were shooting off
hand.
This recreates the dynamic of motion that is present during recoil when
firing un-supported, yet steadies your aim for a good sight picture.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:55 pm |
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John
You have a not uncommon problem for rifle shooters who try to duplicate
their prowess with pistol and have trouble! If you realize the sight
radius is much much shorter than a rifle, and the barrel time is much
shorter, any sight alignment problems will be magnified tenfold.
A Ransome Rest is good for indicating the potential accuracy of a
pistol, but it simply cannot duplicate what happens when held in human
hands. The simple absorption of recoil by tissue and muscle negates the
Ransome Rest results.
Forgive me if I insult your intelligence or experience but we are
unknowns here so I am replying in the blind.
If you use sandbags/wood piles/ trees/rocks/your best buddies back/etc
to help steady your shaky pistol as you try to present a shot in the
black, are you replicating each shot? Are you duplicating every aspect
of the shots? You have to be consistent to figure out where the problem
area is. Dry fire is a possible cure to see if you are pulling the
pistol out of alignment as the shot occurs. Quite common for that to
happen.
Dry fire against a blank wall is perhaps the best way to see if you are
indeed holding sight alignment and follow thru. In pistol shooting in
particular, it is absolutely critical to have a clear front sight focus
when the shot breaks. If you don't have that, all bets are off....
Good luck with your efforts
Ol S&B
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| John Covington |
| Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:55 pm |
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# Can any of you guys recommend a
# bracing or support method that will significantly reduce
# hand wobble, flinching, etc so I can be sure the sights
are
# right ?
#
Thanks for the several good ideas in the responses above.
Some contradict others, so I'll have to experiment. When
I used the word "pistol," I assumed that was understood
to mean semiautomatic. In the past I have tried resting
the front of the frame in the "ears" of a sandbag. But this
got inconclusive results and there was an issue with
contacting the recoiling slide.
Of course I agree with Mike that in the end it's the
unbraced, unassisted results that really matter.
JPC
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| Guest |
| Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:28 pm |
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John Covington wrote:
John
If you hold the pistol with both hands as you would normally shoot
(unless its bullseye), it doesn't matter much what you use for a rest
to steady your hands. Of course the sandbags are easier to use and
easier on the hands?! The point is to be consistent and use the rest to
steady the hands and not the pistol.
May I assume from your post, you are not that experienced in pistol
shooting? Based on that assumption, you should use the grip that you
have developed and only use the sandbags to rest your hands on to
steady. If you are shooting against a wood barrier, same thing
applies...you use the same grip and rest your hands against the barrier
and NOT the pistol. As I said in the other post, front sight focus and
alignment is critical when shooting pistol. See if you can find someone
local with a master classification card to help you out.
Good luck in your efforts
Ol S&B - master class and distinguished pistol shot badge
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