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 Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:09 pm |
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i was just thinking about why the beatles broke up after listening to my
recently bought cd copy of "sentimental journey " by ringo.
first post beatles releases:
john---"plastic ono band".
paul---"mccartney".
george---"all things must pass".
ringo---"sentimental journey".
they were all in just totally different places musically don't you
think??????? |
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| Mack A. Damia... |
| Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 11:21 pm |
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On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:09:44 -0500, captin_kidd at (no spam) webtv.net wrote:
Quote: i was just thinking about why the beatles broke up after listening to my
recently bought cd copy of "sentimental journey " by ringo.
first post beatles releases:
john---"plastic ono band".
paul---"mccartney".
george---"all things must pass".
ringo---"sentimental journey".
they were all in just totally different places musically don't you
think???????
To cut to the chase (IMO) it was a clash of egos between John and
Paul. George and Ringo were just there but got fed up of all the BS.
Yoko was only a shadow of Lennon's ego.
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| Ron Fowler... |
| Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:33 am |
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George had two albums worth of songs by 1970, and with only 1 or 2 songs
per Beatle album, it wouldve taken years for him to get just those songs
he had in 1970 onto Beatles albums. So George gained the most from the
breakup. John and Paul liked being able to create without the other one
editing their work. The Beatles never would've recorded "Monkberry Moon
Delight" or "Woman is the N----- of the World". |
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| Crisstti... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:47 pm |
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On Nov 13, 3:09 pm, richforman <rforma... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Quote: On Nov 12, 11:21 pm, Mack A. Damia <mybaconbu... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:09:44 -0500, captin_k... at (no spam) webtv.net wrote:
i was just thinking about why the beatles broke up after listening to my
recently bought cd copy of "sentimental journey " by ringo.
first post beatles releases:
john---"plastic ono band".
paul---"mccartney".
george---"all things must pass".
ringo---"sentimental journey".
they were all in just totally different places musically don't you
think???????
To cut to the chase (IMO) it was a clash of egos between John and
Paul. George and Ringo were just there but got fed up of all the BS.
Yoko was only a shadow of Lennon's ego.
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mad
I don't know that John's ego per se was the problem, but I do think
that whether he consciously knew it or not, Paul very much wanted to
be in charge of the arrangements on his own songs without being second-
guessed or stepping on others' egos; deep inside he really wanted and
needed to be a solo artist rather than a band member or collaborator -
and that is how he has rolled ever since.
I think I mainly agree with you. It's interesting how Paul,
supossedly being the one who most wanted The Beatles to stay together
(and who arguable kept them together fora a while) seems also to have
been the one who most wanted to be a solo artist.
I do think though that John's insecurity was a problem.
Quote: I always get a huge kick out of the fact that we're all still talking
about and debating the reasons for the break up decades later.
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| Crisstti... |
| Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:54 pm |
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On Nov 13, 3:33 am, lonelysum... at (no spam) webtv.net (Ron Fowler) wrote:
Quote: George had two albums worth of songs by 1970, and with only 1 or 2 songs
per Beatle album, it wouldve taken years for him to get just those songs
he had in 1970 onto Beatles albums. So George gained the most from the
breakup. John and Paul liked being able to create without the other one
editing their work. The Beatles never would've recorded "Monkberry Moon
Delight" or "Woman is the N----- of the World".
Well, I don't know about that. The Beatles recorded Yellow Submarine,
Obladi Oblada, Your Mother Should Know, Why Don't we do it on the
Road, etc. I can see them doing Monkberry Moon Delight. Woman is the
Nigger of the World seems farther from anything they did though. |
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| The Walrus was Danny... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:17 pm |
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Quote: Madge? My nick is Mack; my real name is David.
Feel me David, feel me.
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I try not to be "lofty". I was talking about "Usenet face" yesterday.
I can't see your expression, and you can't see my expression, so we
project a lot of our own feelings (I think) onto each other.
Most who know me in rmb know where I'm at. My buttocks flex in a
particular way. I don't eek on protocol if the groove is such..it's
just the way I am. No big deal. If I remember (and to be honest I'll
probably forget) I'l leave the posters name on the top..but if I
don't, then it;s just life. Peace indeed.
Not just
Quote: us, of course, but look at the flames going on in here. If we were at
a Beatles party and having fun, none of this stuff would happen, eh?
Flames?? Good God. Trust me Madge..er David..this is not a flame. Tis
hardly a burnt match.
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Peace!~
Imagine all the peep holes.
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| The Walrus was Danny... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:20 pm |
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Quote: See, the way people read this - as you trimmed it - is that you bought
the album for $14.98 in 1970, etc. Many folks get confused, and it's
a reasonable confusion, wouldn't you say?
Well yes..but it's not the end of the world is it?
The bit's that you wrote have a little > thingy before them so IMO
it's clear I'm responding to somebody else. (in this case er..you.)
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| The Walrus was Danny... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:21 pm |
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Quote: From here, the lines he was quoting had quotes before them ( > ). His
part of the reply does not, so it reads perfectly. There's no name,
but you can tell he didn't write it. Does your newsreader wipe off
the quotes?
No. But you notice that, and I notice that, but it's still confusing
to many (IMO) especially when the thread becomes lengthy.
Look at this one. It becomes more-and-more difficult to wade through
the attributes.
And, by the way, in Danny's original reply to me, how can you tell who
he was replying to?
I think you're being a bit silly young David.
Danny |
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| PJ... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 6:29 pm |
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Quote: On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:21:59 -0800 (PST), The Walrus was Danny
I think you're being a bit silly young David.
And Mack. A. Damia replied:
Quote: Daft, lad, daft. How still thy sleep, how silly thy sheep.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90039878 at (no spam) N00/?saved=1
( Mi casa es no su casa)
I may have forgotten something. Oh, yes, I'm almost 62 and have lived
here about nine years. Tonight my beautiful twenty-three year old
girlfriend paid me a visit. Surprise! And here I was just about to
take a sauna in the one I had installed last Christmas, too. ;)
If you ask me nicely, I'll post a photo of her.
How was your day, kid?
This is your reply to someone on usenet, in this case Danny, calling
you " a bit silly" about quotes...
You really are a pretentious jackass, huh? |
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| Mack A. Damia... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:02 pm |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:21:59 -0800 (PST), The Walrus was Danny
<dannyisthewalrus at (no spam) tesco.net> wrote:
Quote:
From here, the lines he was quoting had quotes before them ( > ). His
part of the reply does not, so it reads perfectly. There's no name,
but you can tell he didn't write it. Does your newsreader wipe off
the quotes?
No. But you notice that, and I notice that, but it's still confusing
to many (IMO) especially when the thread becomes lengthy.
Look at this one. It becomes more-and-more difficult to wade through
the attributes.
And, by the way, in Danny's original reply to me, how can you tell who
he was replying to?
I think you're being a bit silly young David.
Daft, lad, daft. How still thy sleep, how silly thy sheep.
Up at 4 this morning, old chap. Drove sixty miles across the Baja
wine country which includes three ragged mountain ranges - several
very small eye-blink towns....and one army checkpoint.
It's the long and winding road, sonny-boy, up-and-down, in and out,
round and around on a two lane grade B highway, if you can call it
that. Nevertheless, it's very beautiful country, and you start about
two miles from here. Now I have to admit that ten miles of that sixty
has very recently been widened to four lane!! Hooray!
You can drive to the town of San Antonio de las Minas where - if you
know where to turn and drive through the forest and across a small
ford you will find a most delightful restaurant in a nursery. I
actually crossed the ford when there was a pretty good deal of water
running after a rain. Rain is very rare here in Baja.
Anyway, across the ford in the middle of the forest is a delightful
garden reastaurant - actually, a nursery/garden restaurant where they
serve, among the others, a damn good Sunday brunch. It's called, "La
Hacienda".
So, cut to the chase. Large cup of coffee by my side, and off we set
about 5:30. Still dark. Here's the bugger, though, cuz after the
nice, new four lane highway, there's about fifteen or twenty miles of
miserable dirt roads, because another section is being widened. No
point of washing your car before you leave, see.
Joker in front of me kept braking in the construction, but he was
driving too fast and throwing stones. I pulled in to the army
inspection station about forty miles into the mountains along with
this guy in front of me, but it's just really a matter of pulling off
the road into an area of dirt. But it's the mddle of nowhere.
Desolate.
I know the routine. I jumped out opened my trunk, and that usually
suffices. They are usually pretty nice guys, and I can converse with
them.
But not this morning. one of the soldiers (look like kids carrying
real M-16s) jumped in the front of my Jag and started routing around
under my dash. The other soldier was looking under the floor where
the spare is. Bustin' my balls, know what I mean?
Not only that, but the other group of a few soldiers let the other
vehicle - a van - GO - without a glance! Mexican license plates, too.
I strenuously objected to the obvious discrimination to which the
soldier replied "familia". Probably.
So, eventually, when they found nothing, they had to let me continue
on my journey, which I did. Twenty more miles of mountainous, winding
road and after I stopped at a large gas station/convenience store
before you enter the city (large black, not cream or sugar) I joined
the early morning rush hour traffic in the city of Tecate, about sixty
miles east of Tijuana/San Ysidro.
Bu there is a border crossing in Tecate, too; there is a Tecate,
California., too, and I prefer going through Tecate because I have
some stops to make in East County. Also, there is not the wait that
there is at Tijuana - usually, at least an hour in the early morning,
but usually around fifteen to twenty minutes at the Tecate crossing.
The guard processed me with my passport, asked me a couple of
questions, and I popped the trunk. He returned my passport, and I was
gone.
Turned west after a short spur - still a two lane highway, and you've
gone from sea level to about 3,800 miles in 60 miles. Drove another
sixty miles back to San Diego -where the traffic becomes more Southern
California on to pick up my friend who has a beautiful condo in
Hillcrest. I met John in Saigon, Vietnam, in 1968. He is, but I'm
not. But we're war comrades.
Had a wonderful brekkkie at Dennys. Prime Rib fiesta, with scrambled
eggs, hash browns, onions, peppers, bits of succulent prime rib washed
down with even more coffee, but this time, decaff.
Did some shopping with John after breakfast. He's from a small town
in Kansas not too far from the Clutter spread. Amazingly, we lost
track of each other in 1970 and did not connect again until 1990. We
could have bumped into each other on the streets of Manhattan where we
both worked in the mid-1980s.
Picked up my medications: OG Kush and Purple Napal, and that's worked
out reeeeal well.
Said my goodbyes and took I-5 to that very well known spot that has
been featured in so many different senerios - the U.S. Mexican border
at San Ysidro/Tijuana.
Through the border with no problemos south and on to Ensenada and to
my home. I travel on one of the few toll roads in Baja. Three
tollbooths, about $2.50 for a twenty-five mile stretch.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/90039878 at (no spam) N00/?saved=1
( Mi casa es no su casa)
I may have forgotten something. Oh, yes, I'm almost 62 and have lived
here about nine years. Tonight my beautiful twenty-three year old
girlfriend paid me a visit. Surprise! And here I was just about to
take a sauna in the one I had installed last Christmas, too. ;)
If you ask me nicely, I'll post a photo of her.
How was your day, kid?
mad |
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| Mack A. Damia... |
| Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 11:24 pm |
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On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:02:49 -0800, Mack A. Damia
<mybaconbutty at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Turned west after a short spur - still a two lane highway, and you've
gone from sea level to about 3,800 miles in 60 miles.
I hope not, I mean 3,800 ft. Mind ahead of myself. |
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