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Edward Edmonds...
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:41 pm
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Thought I'd share this with ya'll:

http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/

Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John
Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com. I came across it when I first
started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was
clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek. The
original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as
formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and
eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a
slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.

I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again
someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental
to running properly and efficiently.

If anything it's a look back into some of the training the runner's of
the past put themselves through.

Enjoy.

Edward
 
Edward...
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 2:22 am
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On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thought I'd share this with ya'll:

http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/

Gordon Pirie originally wrote it (it's a short read), and Dr. John
Gilbody had it on gordonpirie.com.  I came across it when I first
started running and I found it to be inspirational as Pirie was
clearly a runner who was very confident and one who beat Zatopek.  The
original PDF file was in dire need of some beautification as well as
formatting to make it more readable so I offered to fix it up and
eventually I'll have the photos in the other PDF set up as a
slideshow, along with a small discussion forum for the book.

I found the section of footwear to be especially interesting, again
someone (Pirie) who advocated minimalist footwear as being fundamental
to running properly and efficiently.

I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.

(Another) Edward
 
rob...
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 12:00 pm
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote:

Quote:
On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Thought I'd share this with ya'll:

http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/

I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.

Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:

http://www.acasports.co.uk/product_info.php?cpath=477_494&osCsid=492184b1158202be769a2a363383fd52&products_id=8664

I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
look for anything else.

--
rob
 
John Hurley...
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 3:55 pm
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On Nov 10, 6:54 pm, EDWARD EDMONDS <edward.edmo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

snip

Quote:
I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
look for anything else.

....

Quote:
If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
are a few to consider:

Adidas adiZero PR
Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
Adidas adiZero Pro
New Balance RC152
Asics Piranha SP2

The Nike Lunaracers should not be left out. The best of the racing
flats that I have ever had.

They are relatively new and not as well known as they should be imho.

Have you tried running in them Edward?
 
Edward Edmonds...
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:02 pm
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On Nov 10, 6:00 pm, rob <leand... at (no spam) googlemail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote:
On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds <edward.edmo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Thought I'd share this with ya'll:

http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/

I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
stuff).  I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since.  I'm
52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb).  YMMV.

Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:

http://www.acasports.co.uk/product_info.php?cpath=477_494&osCsid=4921....

I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
look for anything else.

--
rob

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pktAebUTdSY

I have a tendency to ramble, but hopefully you get the main point that
flexibility is key and that just because a shoe is advertised or
marketed as a flat doesn't always qualify it as a flat in reality.

Edward
 
EDWARD EDMONDS...
Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 6:54 pm
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On 11/10/2009 6:00 PM, rob wrote:
Quote:
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 04:22:13 -0800 (PST), Edward wrote:

On Nov 6, 10:41 pm, Edward Edmonds<edward.edmo... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Thought I'd share this with ya'll:

http://edwardedmonds.com/pirie/

I read this a few years ago and switched from normal training shoes to
lightweight flats for virtually all my running (except muddy off-road
stuff). I've never looked back - flats are cheaper, much more
comfortable and I've been more or less injury-free ever since. I'm
52, 5' 10" and weigh 10st 9lb (149lb). YMMV.

Any specific lightweight flats you can recommend? I'm very interested in
the idea and will need some new shoes soon, but I'm not sure what to go
for. My local running shop is no help. I knew a guy in his 60s who did a
lot of miles injury free and ran in something like this:

http://www.acasports.co.uk/product_info.php?cpath=477_494&osCsid=492184b1158202be769a2a363383fd52&products_id=8664

I'm not sure I can bring myself to go that basic, particularly when running
with others. But I rapidly seem to get back in to expensive stuff when I
look for anything else.

You'll be hard pressed to find a modern flat that cheap. Most flats
these days from any major shoe company are going to be $80+.

Today I recorded a video on some things to look for in flats,
particularly midsole flexibility, I show several different flats I've
worn; while the video doesn't focus on one particular flat, you should
be able to get an idea of what to look for.

If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
are a few to consider:

Adidas adiZero PR
Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
Adidas adiZero Pro
New Balance RC152
Asics Piranha SP2

I will post the link to the video once it's finished uploading to the web.

Edward
 
Anthony...
Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:05 am
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"EDWARD EDMONDS" <edward.edmonds at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:hdcufr$71f$1 at (no spam) adenine.netfront.net...
Quote:
If you don't feel like me ramble on about midsole flexibility then here
are a few to consider:

Adidas adiZero PR
Mizuno Wave Universe 2 or 3
Adidas adiZero Pro
New Balance RC152
Asics Piranha SP2

I run mostly in Saucony Fastwitch

Anthony.
 
Edward Edmonds...
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 4:00 pm
Guest
Quote:
Double Ed looks to have an unfair advantage: youth.

Yeah, I'm about 27, my Dad is 50, but most people still peg him in the
low 30's, we Okinawans tend to age well a live long.

And now for some trivia:

There is a difference between Okinawans and regular old Japanese both
looks wise and health wise. If you ever meet a native Okinawan and
you call them Japanese, you'll quickly be corrected. Okinawans
traditionally tend to be healthier and also more Western looking.

Meeko
 
Bart Mathias...
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:38 pm
Guest
Edward Edmonds wrote:
Quote:
Double Ed looks to have an unfair advantage: youth.

Yeah, I'm about 27, my Dad is 50, but most people still peg him in the
low 30's, we Okinawans tend to age well a live long.

And now for some trivia:

There is a difference between Okinawans and regular old Japanese both
looks wise and health wise. If you ever meet a native Okinawan and
you call them Japanese, you'll quickly be corrected. Okinawans
traditionally tend to be healthier and also more Western looking.

A lot of them look like uchinan people. The kind that eat hachibu.
 
 
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