I think you'll find most commentary about him in the low heart rate
forums. Or on the Lydiard forums - saw your posts there. Nobby is super
great source of info.

Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess few to none of us here.  But by
all means, if anyone's a closet Van Aaken fan, speak up.

I'll confess, I haven't followed those.

Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

Edward Edmonds wrote:
Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

I think you'll find most commentary about him in the low heart rate
forums. Or on the Lydiard forums - saw your posts there. Nobby is super
great source of info.

http://tinyurl.com/ydj75of
The OP in that thread is a long-time ultra runner (and one of Doug's
buddies, but that has nothing to do with his statements).

On 11/5/2009 5:48 AM, Dot wrote:

Edward Edmonds wrote:
Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

Needless to say when I was reviewing Aaken's method it helped to
solidify my seemingly illogical training habbit's and I've come to
believe that those so called junk miles are not so junky after all,

Of course Aaken also talked about fasting now and again and not eating
so many calories, again before I read about this, on my own I had been
experimenting with different caloric intakes and found that at least for
me, you don't need to eat as much as they say you do, I try to stay
between 1500 and 1700 calories a day... It's been known for a while now
that a reduced calorie diet reduces insulin secretion and lowers core
body temperature abit, in essence the body becomes really efficient at
using small amounts of food and as a consequence the way your body
produces and uses energy becomes really efficient.  Again this might be
something the more experienced runners may already know.

Anywho, I've always been one to go by how I feel when it comes to
running, I've always felt that if it worked for me and it gets me the
results and I hit my goals within a realistic timeframe then I've got to
be doing something right.  After reading Aaken and knowing what I know
about Lydiard, it really helped to pull things together for me and
explain a lot of the unknowns as to why somethings work for me and
others don't.

Anyway didn't mean to turn it into a blog post about my overnight
revelation, but learning something new is always nice and always worth a
share.

Edward Edmonds wrote:
Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

I think you'll find most commentary about him in the low heart rate
forums. Or on the Lydiard forums - saw your posts there. Nobby is super
great source of info.

http://tinyurl.com/ydj75of
The OP in that thread is a long-time ultra runner (and one of Doug's
buddies, but that has nothing to do with his statements).

Dot

Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess few to none of us here.

(I could never get the tension just right so I could relax
but tight enough so it wouldn't slide down my sexy 114 pound body) I
learned to go by feel.

EDWARD EDMONDS wrote:
(I could never get the tension just right so I could relax
but tight enough so it wouldn't slide down my sexy 114 pound body) I
learned to go by feel.

Forgive me Edward if these come across as stupid questions but I only
dip in here occasionally.

When you say you have a sexy 114 pound body is this because

a) you have a sense of humour? :-)

b) you're a midget and that's an appropriate weight for your height?
or
c) you're of normal stature and you're dangerously underweight? :-(

I'm betting on a) but given your comments about training 3 times a day
and only eating 1500 to 1700 calories a day I have to consider that c)
might be a possibility.

Tim

lol, ya'll are a funny bunch of apples; always finding a reason to fight
with one another, lol.

Ed Ed:

Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?


pendejo:

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess few to none of us here.


I was wrong. Correction: few to none of us have _failed_ to read up
on Van Aaken, at least a bit.

Interesting that we all offer pointers to different forums for anyone
who seeks info on his methods.

On 11/5/2009 5:48 AM, Dot wrote:

Edward Edmonds wrote:

Is anybody familiar with Ernst Van Aaken and his training methods?


I think you'll find most commentary about him in the low heart rate
forums. Or on the Lydiard forums - saw your posts there. Nobby is super
great source of info.

http://tinyurl.com/ydj75of
The OP in that thread is a long-time ultra runner (and one of Doug's
buddies, but that has nothing to do with his statements).

Dot


Yeah that thread you mentioned was like the first result on Google, I
went for a 1:00 am hour run and then stayed up the rest of the night
reading about the guy and then ordered his book from 19 seventy
something for like $2.95 on the amazon.com market place. (I get a woody
for old running books )

What I found was that
overall working the higher aerobic rates and the really low heart rates
(and the middle ones too) provides a lot more quality short term and
long term aerobic development then just settling into your comfortable
pace each run. Of course this probably isn't a huge secret to you long
time runners out there, but at the time nobody could really explain it
to my satisfaction.

Anyway didn't mean to turn it into a blog post about my overnight
revelation, but learning something new is always nice and always worth a
share.