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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:54 pm
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6461171/Memoirs-of-Hitler-aide-could-finally-end-Holocaust-claims.html

Memoirs of Hitler aide could finally end Holocaust claims
The memoirs of the last SS adjutant to Adolf Hitler are to be published in a
move historians say could cast away the last shred of doubt over his personal
involvement in the Holocaust.


By Allan Hall in Berlin
Published: 6:30AM GMT 30 Oct 2009

Fritz Darges died at the weekend aged 96 with instructions for his manuscript
about his time spent at the side of the Führer to be published once he was
gone.

Darges was the last surviving member of Hitler's inner circle and was present
for all major conferences, social engagements and policy announcements for
four years of the war.

Experts say his account of his time as Hitler's direct link to the SS could
discount the claims of revisionists who have tried to claim the German leader
knew nothing of the extermination programme. Right-wing historians have
claimed the planning for the murder of six million Jews was carried out by SS
chief Heinrich Himmler.

Mainstream historians believe it inconceivable that Hitler did not issue
verbal directives about the mass killings in Darges' presence. Other
courtiers, such as armaments minister Albert Speer and propaganda chief Josef
Goebbels, had their diaries published post war with no reference to hearing
Hitler ordering the "Final Solution".

Darges died on Saturday still believing in the man who engineered the Jewish
Holocaust as "the greatest who ever lived." His memoirs will be published now
in accordance with his will.

Darges trained as an export clerk but joined the SS in April 1933. His zeal
for National Socialism soon earmarked him for great things and by 1936 he was
the senior adjutant to Martin Bormann, Hitler's all-powerful secretary.

"I first met the Führer at the Nuremberg party rally in 1934," he said in an
interview given to a German newspaper shortly before his death at his home in
Celle. "He had a sympathetic look, he was warm-hearted. I rated him from the
off."

After serving in the SS panzer division Wiking in France and Russia he was
promoted on to the Führer's personal staff in 1940. He rose to the rank of
Lt. Col. and was awarded the Knights Cross, the highest gallantry award for
bravery in the field.

Much of his time after 1942 was either spent at Hitler's eastern headquarters
the 'Wolf's Lair' at Rastenburg, East Prussia, or at his holiday home, the
Berghof, on a mountain in Berchtesgaden, Bavaria.

"It was a very familial atmosphere at the Berghof," he recalled. "One time we
went off to Italy together with Eva Braun and her sister Gretel in an
open-topped car.

"I had to organise all the finances. I had the feeling that Eva's sister was
interested in me but I didn't think I should become the brother-in-law of the
Fuehrer.

"As adjutant I was responsible for his day-to-day programme. I must, and was,
always there for him, at every conference, at every inter-service liaison
meeting, at all war conferences.

"I must say I found him a genius."

But Darges misjudged the "warm-hearted" Führer deeply during one conference
at Rastenburg on July 18 1944 - two days before a bomb plot nearly succeeded
in killing him.

During a strategy conference a fly began buzzing around the room, landing on
Hitler's shoulder and on the surface of a map several times.

Irritated, Hitler ordered Darges to "dispatch the nuisance". Darges suggested
whimsically that, as it was an "airborne pest" the job should go to the
Luftwaffe adjutant, Nicolaus von Below.

Enraged, Hitler dismissed Darges on the spot. "You're for the eastern front!"
he yelled. And so he was sent into combat.

But despite the dramatic end to his time with Hitler, he would still hear
nothing against "the boss."

"We all dreamed of a greater German empire," he said. "That is why I served
him and would do it all again now," said the man who had a career after the
war selling cars.


© Copyright of Telegraph Media Group Limited
 
Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"...
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:01 pm
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thanks for evidence that Hitler and not just the SS was involved in the
Holocaust!

did you even read your own post?

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6461171/Memoirs-of-Hitler-aide-could-finally-end-Holocaust-claims.html

Memoirs of Hitler aide could finally end Holocaust claims
The memoirs of the last SS adjutant to Adolf Hitler are to be published in
a
move historians say could cast away the last shred of doubt over his
personal
involvement in the Holocaust.


By Allan Hall in Berlin
Published: 6:30AM GMT 30 Oct 2009

Fritz Darges died at the weekend aged 96 with instructions for his
manuscript
about his time spent at the side of the Führer to be published once he was
gone.

Darges was the last surviving member of Hitler's inner circle and was
present
for all major conferences, social engagements and policy announcements for
four years of the war.

Experts say his account of his time as Hitler's direct link to the SS
could
discount the claims of revisionists who have tried to claim the German
leader
knew nothing of the extermination programme. Right-wing historians have
claimed the planning for the murder of six million Jews was carried out by
SS
chief Heinrich Himmler.

Mainstream historians believe it inconceivable that Hitler did not issue
verbal directives about the mass killings in Darges' presence. Other
courtiers, such as armaments minister Albert Speer and propaganda chief
Josef
Goebbels, had their diaries published post war with no reference to
hearing
Hitler ordering the "Final Solution".

Darges died on Saturday still believing in the man who engineered the
Jewish
Holocaust as "the greatest who ever lived." His memoirs will be published
now
in accordance with his will.

Darges trained as an export clerk but joined the SS in April 1933. His
zeal
for National Socialism soon earmarked him for great things and by 1936 he
was
the senior adjutant to Martin Bormann, Hitler's all-powerful secretary.

"I first met the Führer at the Nuremberg party rally in 1934," he said in
an
interview given to a German newspaper shortly before his death at his home
in
Celle. "He had a sympathetic look, he was warm-hearted. I rated him from
the
off."

After serving in the SS panzer division Wiking in France and Russia he was
promoted on to the Führer's personal staff in 1940. He rose to the rank of
Lt. Col. and was awarded the Knights Cross, the highest gallantry award
for
bravery in the field.

Much of his time after 1942 was either spent at Hitler's eastern
headquarters
the 'Wolf's Lair' at Rastenburg, East Prussia, or at his holiday home, the
Berghof, on a mountain in Berchtesgaden, Bavaria.

"It was a very familial atmosphere at the Berghof," he recalled. "One time
we
went off to Italy together with Eva Braun and her sister Gretel in an
open-topped car.

"I had to organise all the finances. I had the feeling that Eva's sister
was
interested in me but I didn't think I should become the brother-in-law of
the
Fuehrer.

"As adjutant I was responsible for his day-to-day programme. I must, and
was,
always there for him, at every conference, at every inter-service liaison
meeting, at all war conferences.

"I must say I found him a genius."

But Darges misjudged the "warm-hearted" Führer deeply during one
conference
at Rastenburg on July 18 1944 - two days before a bomb plot nearly
succeeded
in killing him.

During a strategy conference a fly began buzzing around the room, landing
on
Hitler's shoulder and on the surface of a map several times.

Irritated, Hitler ordered Darges to "dispatch the nuisance". Darges
suggested
whimsically that, as it was an "airborne pest" the job should go to the
Luftwaffe adjutant, Nicolaus von Below.

Enraged, Hitler dismissed Darges on the spot. "You're for the eastern
front!"
he yelled. And so he was sent into combat.

But despite the dramatic end to his time with Hitler, he would still hear
nothing against "the boss."

"We all dreamed of a greater German empire," he said. "That is why I
served
him and would do it all again now," said the man who had a career after
the
war selling cars.


© Copyright of Telegraph Media Group Limited
 
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 8:38 pm
Guest
Of course I read it, dummy!
I'll let the revisionists comment on it.
Actually, there's no such evidence. It just says it could provide the
needed evidence.

I was going to add the comment when I posted it:
Just when the Zionazis needed another "memoir". Yet another miracle!
But I would have been jumping the gun, as they say.

I'll let people who can review this give their informed opinion.
This is what free debate and inquiry is all about.
I'm all for it.

BTW, I'll sometimes post both sides of an issue, like the Ahmadinejad
(first Jewish/then NotJewish) posts.



"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed at (no spam) dmreed.com> wrote in
news:Zt4Im.14808$Ka2.14241 at (no spam) newsfe08.iad:

Quote:
thanks for evidence that Hitler and not just the SS was involved in
the Holocaust!

did you even read your own post?

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
news:ZT%Hm.145587$8m4.1201 at (no spam) en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6461171/Memoirs-of-Hitler-aide-could-
f
inally-end-Holocaust-claims.html

Memoirs of Hitler aide could finally end Holocaust claims
The memoirs of the last SS adjutant to Adolf Hitler are to be
published in a
move historians say could cast away the last shred of doubt over his
personal
involvement in the Holocaust.


By Allan Hall in Berlin
Published: 6:30AM GMT 30 Oct 2009

<snip />

Ø
Let the holy settler in you run hog wild.
Settler-friendly Birobidjan: The Jewish Homeland.
http://www.tellingfilms.netne.net/birobidjan.htm
 
Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"...
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:30 pm
Guest
the claim is that the Holocaust happened but some folks try to say that only
the SS knew about it and Hitler did not know about it. this fellow claims he
was there and Hitler knew about the Holocaust.

"free debate and inquiry" requires an educated and open mind which you and
your handlers do not have...

you claim that history shows NO evidence of ancient Israel and you then
ignore all recent archeological evidence to the contrary including saying a
stele does not prove anything...what would constitute evidence for you?

you completely ignore all evidence regarding the Holocaust and simply say it
did not happen, in contrast, the the many older Jews with their death camp
tatoos and the mass graves and pits full of cremated and uncremated bonesand
the Nazi lamp shades made of human skin...what would constitute evidence of
the Holocaust for you?

get a brain, open it up, and then talk about "free debate and inquiry".

OH, I get it, by "free" you mean it does not cost anything including the
effort of diligent research!

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
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Quote:
Of course I read it, dummy!
I'll let the revisionists comment on it.
Actually, there's no such evidence. It just says it could provide the
needed evidence.

I was going to add the comment when I posted it:
Just when the Zionazis needed another "memoir". Yet another miracle!
But I would have been jumping the gun, as they say.

I'll let people who can review this give their informed opinion.
This is what free debate and inquiry is all about.
I'm all for it.

BTW, I'll sometimes post both sides of an issue, like the Ahmadinejad
(first Jewish/then NotJewish) posts.



"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed at (no spam) dmreed.com> wrote in
news:Zt4Im.14808$Ka2.14241 at (no spam) newsfe08.iad:

thanks for evidence that Hitler and not just the SS was involved in
the Holocaust!

did you even read your own post?

"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
news:ZT%Hm.145587$8m4.1201 at (no spam) en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/6461171/Memoirs-of-Hitler-aide-could-
f
inally-end-Holocaust-claims.html

Memoirs of Hitler aide could finally end Holocaust claims
The memoirs of the last SS adjutant to Adolf Hitler are to be
published in a
move historians say could cast away the last shred of doubt over his
personal
involvement in the Holocaust.


By Allan Hall in Berlin
Published: 6:30AM GMT 30 Oct 2009

snip /

Ø
Let the holy settler in you run hog wild.
Settler-friendly Birobidjan: The Jewish Homeland.
http://www.tellingfilms.netne.net/birobidjan.htm
 
Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"...
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 4:05 am
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"Ø" <Ø at (no spam) set.null> wrote in message
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Quote:
"Dennis M Reed \"Califa\"" <dmreed at (no spam) dmreed.com> wrote in
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the claim is that the Holocaust happened but some folks try to say
that only the SS knew about it and Hitler did not know about it. this
fellow claims he was there and Hitler knew about the Holocaust.

"free debate and inquiry" requires an educated and open mind which you
and your handlers do not have...


free debate in the minds of holocaustians is throwing people in jail for
the "crime" of "holocaust-denial".

I have never been in favor of throwing people in jail just because the do
not recognize the truth when it bites them in the butt!

Quote:
free debate in the twisted minds of holocaustians is to *not* question
their line.

I question almost everything including my own opinions.
Quote:

Funny, I'm not pressing charges against anyone for touting the
Holocaustian
line.

me neither!
Quote:

but why did you not provide me with answers to my questions regarding what

would be evidence or proof for both the Holocaust and for ancient Israel?

is it that, even if proof bit you in the butt, you are so set in your
opinions that you would not recognize it!

your blantant refusal to answer such simple and straight forward questons
puts all your ignorant or purposely false claims in serious doubt.
 
 
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