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| KC... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:19 pm |
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I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC |
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| Frank... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:10 pm |
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KC wrote:
Quote: I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
I've got a cheapie Winchester led blood light but have yet to test it
and light output is not high. I accidentally cut my finger in the woods
the other evening and blood was bright red under light but light had to
be close to it.
For finding my way, I have a 3 watt Cree Lowes led that only cost $30
but puts out over 100 lumens. The cheap leds are just not that bright.
Fine for close use but they do not project at any distance.
I'd say, better one good light than a bunch of cheapies. |
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| big john... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:18 pm |
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KC wrote:
Quote: I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
Strange as it sounds, wet blood almost "floureses" in the light of an
old fashioned Coleman gas lantern.
If you have a Coleman camp light, just cover the back side with foil -
it makes a good reflector and protects your eyes. We keep one around the
ranch just for that purpose. Somebody is always shooting a deer at
sundown that has to be tracked!! f you happen to have a have a gas
lantern that you have rigged for flounder or frog gigging (with foil on
the back side to keep the light out of your eyes) -- it makes an
excellent tracking light. |
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| Long Ranger... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:46 pm |
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Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
Quote: wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
Just the statement for setting off the anti-hunters. We typically want to
make the same effort to track down anything we wound or kill, whether it be
a rabbit, or a trophy Moose. |
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| Advocate54... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Quote: I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
I don't have any trouble seeing blood with a standard two cell Maglite. If
you are indeed frugal, I'd expect you would pass on this gimmick altogether. |
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| HHsupply... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:21 pm |
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Cheapest method, get a 16oz bottle of Hydrogen peroxide from your local drug
mart, about $1.00. Fill a used spray bottle (not transparent, peroxide looses
strength in light, that's why its sold in brown bottles) with the Hydrogen
Peroxide. Tracking: spray suspected blood with it, if blood wet/dry it will foam
up.
If you want to go fancy pick up some Fluorescein, same stuff Ophthalmologist
puts in your eye to look for cornea scratches, or foreign objects. Mix it with
the peroxide, it will fluoresce in blue light (UV not needed)
KC wrote:
Quote: I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC |
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| Jim Hurley... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:22 pm |
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A good bright light seemed as good to me as the blood light. The keys
for us has been getting close to the ground with a bright light,
noting the direction and pattern/frequency of the blood trail. Care
not walking on it, allowing for turns and guaging distance between
drops works pretty well.
Jim |
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| KC... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:47 pm |
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On Nov 2, 7:10 pm, Frank <frankperiodlogu... at (no spam) COMCAST.NET> wrote:
Quote: KC wrote:
I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
I've got a cheapie Winchester led blood light but have yet to test it
and light output is not high. I accidentally cut my finger in the woods
the other evening and blood was bright red under light but light had to
be close to it.
For finding my way, I have a 3 watt Cree Lowes led that only cost $30
but puts out over 100 lumens. The cheap leds are just not that bright.
Fine for close use but they do not project at any distance.
I'd say, better one good light than a bunch of cheapies.- Hide quoted text -
As I said, I've never tried one, but the literature on one of them
stated that a weaker light was better than a bright one because the
brighter ones cause more deep shadows/contrast that makes the blood
spots harder to distinguish from the background.
I've always hunted deer with a shotgun (South East) and all kills with
3" OOB were bang flops and I never had to track one. Now I'm using a
rifle over food plots and I guess I've been watching too many hunting
shows where every perfectly hit deer still runs off. Then too those
deer are hunted in sparsely wooded areas compared to thick woods with
underbrush in my area. Tracking one is going to be a challenge and
I'll need any advantage I can get.
KC |
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| Frank... |
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:36 am |
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KC wrote:
Quote: On Nov 2, 7:10 pm, Frank <frankperiodlogu... at (no spam) COMCAST.NET> wrote:
KC wrote:
I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
I've got a cheapie Winchester led blood light but have yet to test it
and light output is not high. I accidentally cut my finger in the woods
the other evening and blood was bright red under light but light had to
be close to it.
For finding my way, I have a 3 watt Cree Lowes led that only cost $30
but puts out over 100 lumens. The cheap leds are just not that bright.
Fine for close use but they do not project at any distance.
I'd say, better one good light than a bunch of cheapies.- Hide quoted text -
As I said, I've never tried one, but the literature on one of them
stated that a weaker light was better than a bright one because the
brighter ones cause more deep shadows/contrast that makes the blood
spots harder to distinguish from the background.
I've always hunted deer with a shotgun (South East) and all kills with
3" OOB were bang flops and I never had to track one. Now I'm using a
rifle over food plots and I guess I've been watching too many hunting
shows where every perfectly hit deer still runs off. Then too those
deer are hunted in sparsely wooded areas compared to thick woods with
underbrush in my area. Tracking one is going to be a challenge and
I'll need any advantage I can get.
KC
After responding to post, I looked at light at Cabela's and it does
appear OK with the Cree LED. Still not sure I'd want the combo.
I do a lot of afternoon bow hunting and activity being greatest after
sunset, I have a lot of experience in night time blood trailing. It is
extremely rare to have a bang flop with a bow and I've had even double
lung shot deer run 200 yards.
I actually carry 4 lights in my pack: the 3 watt Cree LED, the
Winchester blood light, a head lamp with LED's and regular bulb and a
cheap 4 LED light. Fortunately newer lights don't weigh much and need a
ton of D cells. When I bow hunted at friends camp, I always took my gas
Coleman lantern.
Fortunately or unfortunately this year with my current set up I don't
have any good blood trailing experience. |
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| jaf... |
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 7:58 am |
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Hi,
Get a UV flashlight. Blood will glow when lit up.
There is a company that sells a UV LED conversion for Maglites. Check ebay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/TERRALUX-UV-Ultra-violet-LED-for-MINI-MAGLITE-TLE-5UV_W0QQitemZ330370649470QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item4ceba00d7e
John
"KC" <kohemp at (no spam) HOTMAIL.COM> wrote in message news:71d4fabe-245c-47ba-beb7-6e32e651c600 at (no spam) s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC |
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| yoda... |
Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 5:49 pm |
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On Nov 2, 8:18 pm, big john <xjrwat... at (no spam) YAHOO.COM> wrote:
Quote: KC wrote:
I don't know if I should be asking this in rec.hunting or sci.physics
but here goes:
I've never used one but here's what I understand from my search of the
things. A blood trail flashlight consists of a white, red, and green
l.e.d. and costs $40-$50. Best as I can tell, the white is for
finding your way to the start of the trail, then you switch to the red
& green led's. The red & green led's are angled offset so that the
color pattern is red-mixed-green. As you sweep that light pattern
across the trail, the blood splatters will stand out because the red
will be enhanced.
I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
KC
Strange as it sounds, wet blood almost "floureses" in the light of an
old fashioned Coleman gas lantern.
If you have a Coleman camp light, just cover the back side with foil -
it makes a good reflector and protects your eyes. We keep one around the
ranch just for that purpose. Somebody is always shooting a deer at
sundown that has to be tracked!! f you happen to have a have a gas
lantern that you have rigged for flounder or frog gigging (with foil on
the back side to keep the light out of your eyes) -- it makes an
excellent tracking light.
Strange as it sounds, I was once given the same advice and spent all
night trying to follow a blood trail with a coleman lantern. It didn't
work. I ended up sleeping the last two hours before daylight and then
followed the trail in daylight which is a whole lot better than a
lantern. |
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| Chris Barnes... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:49 am |
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Advocate54 wrote:
Quote: I'm a very frugal person, always looking for an easier or cheaper way
of doing things. So here's my question: The lights cost $50, but a 5
light clip-on l.e.d. in red, green, blue. or white costs $6.99 each.
So could you clip a red and green cheapie on a hat, twig, etc, and get
the same results? Yeah, I know if it's a trophy quality buck you
wouldn't take the chance, but if it's just a meat-pot doe that's a
whole different thing. Any comments?
I don't have any trouble seeing blood with a standard two cell Maglite. If
you are indeed frugal, I'd expect you would pass on this gimmick altogether.
For those of us who are color blind, and have a hard time seeing a POOL
of blood on the ground, would it make a difference?
Serious question. I've never used one before. But when I'm looking for
a downed deer, I almost always end up looking for the deer itself,
rather than a blood trail. |
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| Frank... |
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:04 pm |
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Another comment: At Wally World this am I saw two attractive Coleman
lights. Bought one for $25 which advertises Cree LED and 115 lumens
using 2 A cells. They had another with, I think, the same Cree at 115
lumens including red and a green LED's advertised for map viewing and
another use, not blood, for $30 using 2 AAA cells.
I'm giving the $25 light to wife trying to wean us off incandescents as
battery life is far superior with LED's. You can take "dead" batteries
out of incandescents and use them in LED's.
On another note, ammo supply at Wally World was a little better and I
got another brick of .22's. |
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