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| Hunter Hampton... |
 Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:18 pm |
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| Splash... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 6:10 pm |
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On Nov 3, 4:34 pm, dk <deirdrethe... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Nov 3, 11:43 am, Bill Kambic <wjkam... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
If you look at photos of military horses from the late 19th and early
20th Centuries you'll see that the U.S. Army clearly favored the TB
type conformation. When the Remount Service was established more than
90% of the stallions used were TBs. There were a few Arabians and
Morgans, but they were a very clear minority.
The remount standard called for a 900-1100 pound, 15-16h horse. TBs
today very frequently exceed those numbers and are significantly
broader in the withers, to boot. I do know a few folks who ride
vintage Macs, but most are riding reproductions with significantly
wider trees.
Also, America's favorite color of horse is "fat." That was generally
not a problem in the era of the horse cavalry. :-)
I see. Many thanks.
Cheers,
Tim
Many, many moons ago I leased a very "round" Newfoundland" pony. She
came with a "calvary" saddle (so I was told). I have no idea how such
a thing would have made it's way to Newfoundland Canada? It's just
what I was told. I do know it had next to NO padding (probably had
never been reflocked)? I do know the pony was a much more comfortable
ride sans saddle. I used it once or twice and HATED it! It was like
riding on a flattened pancake. No doubt it was old. The leather was
in good shape but there was no padding whatsoever!
I quickly gave it up in favour of riding a fat pony with a "ridge" in
her back, bareback. One that went down because she was so fat!
That's the sum of my experience with "calvary" saddles.
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| Grizzly... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:42 pm |
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Bill Kambic wrote:
Quote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009 07:29:03 -0800 (PST), betsey <twoxover at (no spam) aol.com
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One saddle I'd like to find is a Whitman Officers Saddle (in use from
about 1879-WWI). An original can have have fit issues for modern
horses (as do the original McClellans) but I've never liked the Mac
and for some historical impressions this might be just the thing. A
friend of mine in Alaska collects them and is on the lookout for me.
He recently aquired two civilian versions (reproductions) of the
Whitman and retired his very nice Steele Plantaion saddle in favor of
the Whitmans. 
I have a couple of old military saddles. Haven't looked at makers mark
of late. I'll have to waddle upstairs in the guest house to see who made
them. One was an artillery saddle. Whatever the heck that is. Neither
one of them has a torture slit in the seat and they are both well padded
and made of good quality english leather. Old yep, and one of them might
be useable. The trees are sound, some of the stitching is less than
perfect, but come to think of it these days I might have a loose stitch
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| Bill Kambic... |
| Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 11:51 pm |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 20:10:12 -0800 (PST), Splash <s_pike44 at (no spam) hotmail.com>
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Quote: Many, many moons ago I leased a very "round" Newfoundland" pony. She
came with a "calvary" saddle (so I was told). I have no idea how such
a thing would have made it's way to Newfoundland Canada?
During WWI tens of thousands of saddles were manufactured under
government contract. They were mostly used in cavalry and/or
artillery. The most common pattern in Canada would have been a
variant of the British Universal Pattern. After the War they were
"surplused" and sold in very large numbers.
It's just
Quote: what I was told. I do know it had next to NO padding (probably had
never been reflocked)?
The UP, like most military saddles, was never "padded" so never needed
"re-flocking." It did have a felt pad on the underside and that did
need replacing from time to time.
I do know the pony was a much more comfortable
Quote: ride sans saddle. I used it once or twice and HATED it! It was like
riding on a flattened pancake. No doubt it was old. The leather was
in good shape but there was no padding whatsoever!
Most military saddles are not well padded, either.
Quote: I quickly gave it up in favour of riding a fat pony with a "ridge" in
her back, bareback. One that went down because she was so fat!
That's the sum of my experience with "calvary" saddles.
The UP had a "suspended" seat that required regular adjusting and
maintenance. The "trooper" saddles available from a couple of
saddlers are pretty much lineal descendants of the UP.
Many saddles (particularly on e-Bay are sold as "cavalry saddles";
some even are.  |
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