does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing. stohlquist makes one called the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat gore tex so was
considering one. Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

A hint someone gave me a long time ago is to sprinkle corn starch-type
baby powder on the inside of the neck seal before donning the top.
(Don't use talc-based powder as the talc-based or plain baby powder
because the talc will make tiny cuts in the latex and reduce it's
life). Doing this allows the top to slip on very easily and reduces
the gasket's tendency to pull on the skin. It doesn't seem to reduce
waterproofness but does a lot to increase comfort and virtually
eliminates any rash that might otherwise exist from a long session in
grippy latex.

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

On Nov 2, 11:01 am, mewinds... at (no spam) aol.com wrote:



On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

HI Mike:  What's the model name of the O'neil?

-Dan

On Nov 2, 11:07 am, Dan Weiss <dwus... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:





On Nov 2, 11:01 am, mewinds... at (no spam) aol.com wrote:

On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year..
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

HI Mike:  What's the model name of the O'neil?

-Dan

Hi Dan

I also have the suit Mike is referring to, and I am fully in
agreement.
It's called the Assault Hybrid:

http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/technical/wa...

I combine that with an O'Neill long arm fleece:http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/wetsuits/div...

They're sized a bit like rash guards, but not quite as flexible. Go a
size larger than you think...

The suit doesn't have the push buttons over the hip bone to hold the
fleece in place. Something that always gave me bruises under the
harness..
Also, the neoprene portion doesn't have a long john top (like the
Bare). This is actually nice, as it's easier to get in and out of than
a regular wetsuit.

The neoprene neck seal lets a little more water in than Latex, but is
infinitely more comfortable. No problem wave sailing in one.

Florian

On Nov 2, 6:13 pm, "Florian /FFF/" <florianfeu... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On Nov 2, 11:07 am, Dan Weiss <dwus... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Nov 2, 11:01 am, mewinds... at (no spam) aol.com wrote:

On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

HI Mike:  What's the model name of the O'neil?

-Dan

Hi Dan

I also have the suit Mike is referring to, and I am fully in
agreement.
It's called the Assault Hybrid:

http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/technical/wa...

I combine that with an O'Neill long arm fleece:http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/wetsuits/div...

They're sized a bit like rash guards, but not quite as flexible. Go a
size larger than you think...

The suit doesn't have the push buttons over the hip bone to hold the
fleece in place. Something that always gave me bruises under the
harness..
Also, the neoprene portion doesn't have a long john top (like the
Bare). This is actually nice, as it's easier to get in and out of than
a regular wetsuit.

The neoprene neck seal lets a little more water in than Latex, but is
infinitely more comfortable. No problem wave sailing in one.

Florian

Thanks, Florian.  I wasn't sure you still checked rec dot or that I
"plonked" you by mistake via my magic machine that lets me control the
google servers

Per Florian /FFF/:

It's called the Assault Hybrid:

http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/technical/wa...

What is it with across-the-shoulder zippers?

There's got tb a reason that they're used instead of diagonal
zips... but what?
--
PeteCresswell

On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

It's called the Assault Hybrid:

http://www.oneill.com/#/men/americacanada/collection/men/technical/wake/drysuits/assault_hybrid_drysuit/black_grey/

On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

I checked the oneil site but not much info there. Is the assault
avaailable with a relief zipper and dry socks attached ?

On Nov 2, 11:01 am, mewinds... at (no spam) aol.com wrote:





On Oct 31, 8:04 am, ernie <erniego... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

does anyone have experience with the new type of drysuits which have a
neoprene neck gasket rather than the usual latex. I know they are used
by kayakers  but was wondering how effective it would be for a wetter
activity like windsurfing.   stohlquist  makes one called  the B-pod.
they're conciderably less expensive than the Kokatat  gore tex  so was
considering one.  Primary reason for the neoprene is comfort over the
latex.

Thanks,
Ernie

Hi Ernie,

Many of us here on Long Island have switched from the Bare with latex
seals to the Oneil with the neoprene seals.  I like the O'neil suit
much, much, much better and that seems to be the general consensus.
The neoprene seals are plenty water tight and there is no need to
maintain the seals like you need to do with the latex seals.   I
bought my first O'neil drysuit 4 or 5 years ago and use it much more
than most during the winter moths.  The zipper is what ended up going
on it at the end of this past winter.   The neck and wrist seals were
still in great shape and would have lasted for years to come.  It was
so much nicer than replacing those crappy Bare seals every other year.
The upper part of the suit is also breathable with 3 layers of
material compared to the Bare's single layer.  The O'neil suit is also
much easier to get in and out of, more comfortable when wearing it and
is about $100 cheaper than the Bare.  I just picked up a new O'neil
this spring.  Should be set for another 4 or 5 years!  I highly
recommend it.  The only problem is that it doesn't come with a fleece
like the Bare does, so be sure to pick one up if you don't have
anything.

Mike Burns

Mike,

I checked the oneil site but not much info there.  Is the assault
avaailable  with a relief zipper  and dry socks attached ?  Whats the
cost ?   Are all seals neoprene or only the neck ?    you mentione the
guys on long island  switching from the Bare to the Assault and I
noticed recently  in Windsurfing Mag. an article on winter sailing
featured some Long Island sailors and all seemed to be wearing  the
hybrid suits as well.  Was  wondering why they seem to be popular up
there but not here in NJ  at my local site.  I don't recall anyone
wearing a hybrid type suit,  The Kokatat  seems to be the suit of
chose here.  Don't know why,   considering the high cost of the
Kokatat gore tex.