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| Walter Mitty... |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:17 pm |
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On Oct 30, 4:33 pm, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
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It looks one dimensional and crude to me. And he is not punching
upwards enough. Against someone like Valuev I would not work on
swinging 1-2s at chest level. but rather at straight upward ones. Very
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:16 pm |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus at (no spam) gmail.com>
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Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 3:17 am |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus at (no spam) gmail.com>
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needs to spar with someone who will punch back. ha ha haye has no
chance i mean all he did was throw a punch or 2 drop his hands a walk
around the ring ha ha |
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| Mr.Will... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:09 am |
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"skinnysteve" <skinnysteve at (no spam) stringbean.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus at (no spam) gmail.com
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
if this is all ha ha is doing for sparing id say he has no chance. he
needs to spar with someone who will punch back. ha ha haye has no
chance i mean all he did was throw a punch or 2 drop his hands a walk
around the ring ha ha
I doubt they would be showing everything in an open media workout - I
remember when we had to wait all day to see Kosta training for Hatton and in
the end all the team would let us see was bagwork and some standing on his
head!
Tactics here look to whack to the body then move out.
Seems a decent tactic - Haye has been known to have stamina issues so win
the rounds and score points rather than all out trying to finish Valuev off.
Mr.Will |
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| Walter Mitty... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:54 am |
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pablo <pablo at (no spam) simplyhombre.net> writes:
Quote: On Oct 30, 4:33Â pm, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
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Rum, Sodomy And The Lash. Join The Royal Navy.
It looks one dimensional and crude to me. And he is not punching
upwards enough. Against someone like Valuev I would not work on
swinging 1-2s at chest level. but rather at straight upward ones. Very
straight ones.
Which new dimension would you add?
He js fast on his feet and powering in with FAST and HARD punches at a
higher target.
Valuev is a slow plodding Ox of a man.
Can could do no more than he is doing now.
Holyfield did well but without the real straight hammers going in.
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| Walter Mitty... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:56 am |
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skinnysteve <skinnysteve at (no spam) stringbean.com> writes:
Quote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
if this is all ha ha is doing for sparing id say he has no chance. he
needs to spar with someone who will punch back. ha ha haye has no
chance i mean all he did was throw a punch or 2 drop his hands a walk
around the ring ha ha
Who ever said for one minute that was ALL he was doing? This was a demo
of how he is preparing, in one aspect, for Valuev.
As a world champ and professional boxer I suspect Haye realises he has
to spar. In the interview he specifically mentions the glove and size
difference between sparring and the real thing.
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| pablo... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 5:16 am |
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On Oct 31, 3:54 am, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: pablo <pa... at (no spam) simplyhombre.net> writes:
On Oct 30, 4:33 pm, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
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Rum, Sodomy And The Lash. Join The Royal Navy.
It looks one dimensional and crude to me. And he is not punching
upwards enough. Against someone like Valuev I would not work on
swinging 1-2s at chest level. but rather at straight upward ones. Very
straight ones.
Which new dimension would you add?
He js fast on his feet and powering in with FAST and HARD punches at a
higher target.
Valuev is a slow plodding Ox of a man.
Can could do no more than he is doing now.
Of course it is unfair to judge by a one minute workout. But I thought
his legs were way too wide apart, he was crouching, and he was winging
his punches on the outside. I think Valuev can be very easily timed. I
would devise a plan around a lot of lateral, circular mobility and jab/
cross or jab/hook combos.
But the best way to lose against Valuev is to fight chest to chest and
allow him to weight you down in clinches. Your legs will be shot
within 5 rounds, tops, and your punches sapped of any snap. And the
video does not show Haye trying to be elusive enough, but rather just
punching quickly on his way to a clinch, basically. |
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| Walter Mitty... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:07 am |
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pablo <pablo at (no spam) simplyhombre.net> writes:
Quote: On Oct 31, 3:54Â am, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
pablo <pa... at (no spam) simplyhombre.net> writes:
On Oct 30, 4:33Â pm, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
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Rum, Sodomy And The Lash. Join The Royal Navy.
It looks one dimensional and crude to me. And he is not punching
upwards enough. Against someone like Valuev I would not work on
swinging 1-2s at chest level. but rather at straight upward ones. Very
straight ones.
Which new dimension would you add?
He js fast on his feet and powering in with FAST and HARD punches at a
higher target.
Valuev is a slow plodding Ox of a man.
Can could do no more than he is doing now.
Of course it is unfair to judge by a one minute workout. But I thought
his legs were way too wide apart, he was crouching, and he was winging
As he should do. Launch upwards and almost straight - certainly not
hooks as they would remove a lot of power and length.
Quote: his punches on the outside. I think Valuev can be very easily timed. I
would devise a plan around a lot of lateral, circular mobility and jab/
cross or jab/hook combos.
But the best way to lose against Valuev is to fight chest to chest and
allow him to weight you down in clinches. Your legs will be shot
within 5 rounds, tops, and your punches sapped of any snap. And the
video does not show Haye trying to be elusive enough, but rather just
punching quickly on his way to a clinch, basically.
I disagree. I think that training is him launching the heavy bombs from
the crouch (jumping in) and then falling away to back off and await his
next opportunity. Only a week to wait and see!!!
I cant wait for this one!
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| ddcatdd at (no spam) yahoo.com... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:19 pm |
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On Oct 30, 9:16 pm, ne... at (no spam) millions.com wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI
Niky Valle aka the Biggest of the big Guys is,
in effect, undefeated. He gonn to stay
that ways! |
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| STRATEGY... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:58 pm |
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On Oct 31, 3:19 pm, "ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com" <ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 30, 9:16 pm, ne... at (no spam) millions.com wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI
Niky Valle aka the Biggest of the big Guys is,
in effect, undefeated. He gonn to stay
that ways!
He should have 4 losses, if not for the crooked-ass German judging
I remember Lamon Brewster having to knock out some guy TWICE in the
same fight to get a decision over there, fucking ridiculous
STRATEGY |
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| Walter Mitty... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:21 am |
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"ddcatdd at (no spam) yahoo.com" <ddcatdd at (no spam) yahoo.com> writes:
Quote: On Oct 30, 9:16Â pm, ne... at (no spam) millions.com wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI
Niky Valle aka the Biggest of the big Guys is,
in effect, undefeated. He gonn to stay
that ways!
Is this a new definition of "in effect" and "unbeaten" that the rest of
us are unsure of.
He lost to Holyfield for sure. Both times to you know who. Much as I
want Haye to knock him out : it surely can not happen. He is simply too
big.
Haye CAN win on points if he doesnt blow his load by about the
6th. Which he may well do.
One comment here : I'm sick to death of arseholes talking about "you can
not win a decision in Germany". Arse. The only really bad decision I saw
here was Ottke v Reid. That was bad. The rest. Hmmm. I can believe the
judges saw it differently. |
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| Walter Mitty... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 2:22 am |
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STRATEGY <strategy510 at (no spam) gmail.com> writes:
Quote: On Oct 31, 3:19Â pm, "ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com" <ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 30, 9:16Â pm, ne... at (no spam) millions.com wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI
Niky Valle aka the Biggest of the big Guys is,
in effect, undefeated. He gonn to stay
that ways!
He should have 4 losses, if not for the crooked-ass German judging
International judges old son.
Quote:
I remember Lamon Brewster having to knock out some guy TWICE in the
same fight to get a decision over there, fucking ridiculous
STRATEGY
It happens everywhere. But the Krauts cheating more than any others is
an Urban Myth.
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| ddcatdd at (no spam) yahoo.com... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:32 am |
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On Nov 1, 2:21 am, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: "ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com" <ddca... at (no spam) yahoo.com> writes:
On Oct 30, 9:16 pm, ne... at (no spam) millions.com wrote:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitti... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH52v2mXRL0
Quite impressive.
Well hell! based on that, I bettin' the whole damned farm!
DCI
Niky Valle aka the Biggest of the big Guys is,
in effect, undefeated. He gonn to stay
that ways!
Is this a new definition of "in effect" and "unbeaten" that the rest of
us are unsure of.
He lost to Holyfield for sure. Both times to you know who. Much as I
want Haye to knock him out : it surely can not happen. He is simply too
big.
Haye CAN win on points if he doesnt blow his load by about the
6th. Which he may well do.
One comment here : I'm sick to death of arseholes talking about "you can
not win a decision in Germany". Arse. The only really bad decision I saw
here was Ottke v Reid. That was bad. The rest. Hmmm. I can believe the
judges saw it differently.- Hide quoted text -
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<He lost to Holyfield for sure. Both times to you know who. >
No, Holy didn't do enough; neither did Mr. Unmentionable. |
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:26 am |
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On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:33:12 +0100, Walter Mitty <mitticus at (no spam) gmail.com>
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Nothing special! what pro fighter doesn't look good in the Gym. |
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