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eyeball...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:45 am
Guest
On Oct 30, 2:20 am, William Banaszak <vze3z... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
Val Kraut wrote:
some people may dump on lindberg, ignoring the fact they do make a lot of
kits
others don't. their jn4 kit is the best around and reasonable.
i like the 1/72 german kits because you can make them as well as your
talents
allow. some of them are packed 2 to a box for 10-12 bucks.
if you want to build easy 100 dollar kits, fine. i want to practice my
scratch
building on harder kits that don't cost a left nut.
the people at lindberg do listen and respond to emails. so don't kill of
another model company with indifference.

I didn't mean this as a shot at Lindberg in particular. In Fact I just
purchased multiple copies of Linberg re-releases that I originally did when
they first came out. Not exactly new high tech - but with a little work
build into a passable result. others in my opinion should not again see the
light of flouresents in the local hobby shop - yet if people enjoy them and
they sell - so why not. My gripe was with how the companies react to the
hardline modelers.

         Val Kraut

    That's because we're the luatic fringe.  We buy models because
that's what we do.  We do not represent a mass market.
    The same situation applies to Star Trek.  When the studio puts out a
film, they really don't care if they don't follow established canon.
It's their product and they'll make it the way they think will sell
tickets and let us Trekkers fret over the non-compliances.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

That all-red me262 I saw online isn't canon?!
 
Val Kraut...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:57 am
Guest
"> That's because we're the luatic fringe. We buy models because
Quote:
that's what we do. We do not represent a mass market.


That's an interesting point about where a particlular company's market is.
In the late 60s Revell produced a much awaited B-25 - a terrible kit -
disappointed most of us "modelers". At the same time Tamiya produced a
Lanchaster -same scale - a work of art. The difference was the Revell kit
was under $10, the Tamiya was $40. The local hobby shop discussed with the
Revell rep and was told - Revell's market dictated kits under $10. Meanwhile
the Lanc's sold very successfully in the Hobby Shop. The B-25s remained on
the shelf. Revell couldn't sell kits for over that - no matter how good.
Revell's market place was obviously the 5 & 10s and variety stores - so
that's what they catered to.

I think the desmise of most of the Floquil line followed this also - when
they were merged with Testors - Testor's market place didn't fit Floquil
cost and quality.

Val Kraut
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:27 am
Guest
In article <4aea66cb$0$22536$607ed4bc at (no spam) cv.net>, "Val Kraut" <marvalk at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
Quote:

some people may dump on lindberg, ignoring the fact they do make a lot of
kits
others don't. their jn4 kit is the best around and reasonable.
i like the 1/72 german kits because you can make them as well as your
talents
allow. some of them are packed 2 to a box for 10-12 bucks.
if you want to build easy 100 dollar kits, fine. i want to practice my
scratch
building on harder kits that don't cost a left nut.
the people at lindberg do listen and respond to emails. so don't kill of
another model company with indifference.

I didn't mean this as a shot at Lindberg in particular. In Fact I just
purchased multiple copies of Linberg re-releases that I originally did when
they first came out. Not exactly new high tech - but with a little work
build into a passable result. others in my opinion should not again see the
light of flouresents in the local hobby shop - yet if people enjoy them and
they sell - so why not. My gripe was with how the companies react to the
hardline modelers.


Val Kraut


i know val, you're a good guy.
 
Don Stauffer...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:40 am
Guest
WmB wrote:
Quote:
"Don Stauffer" <stauffer at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:4ae9a093$0$48226$815e3792 at (no spam) news.qwest.net...
Sir Ridesalot wrote:

Hi there.

I think that any military Lindberg kit and a positive response is an
oxymoron.

Cheers from Peter
I recently finished the Lindberg Civil War cannon. I thought it was great.
I showed it to a civil war artillery expert yesterday. She pointed out
that the limber seat covered with leather is not correct, it should have
been copper covered. And the hooks for the buckets were incorrectly
placed. To me these are very minor errors. The kit is generally quite
accurate with very good detail.

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.

I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it - which
way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about it?

WmB


Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative comments

are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I will redo the
limber lid to make it copper covered.
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:44 pm
Guest
In article <bc81e85c-3bf1-4c5f-a2d0-d24596304a9c at (no spam) g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, The Old Man <Braungart at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 30, 2:12=A0am, William Banaszak <vze3z... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
The Old Man wrote:
On Oct 29, 10:03 am, Don Stauffer <stauf... at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote:
Sir Ridesalot wrote:
Hi there.
I think that any military Lindberg kit and a positive response is an
oxymoron.
Cheers from Peter
I recently finished the Lindberg Civil War cannon. I thought it was
great. =A0I showed it to a civil war artillery expert yesterday. =A0Sh=
e
pointed out that the limber seat covered with leather is not correct, =
it
should have been copper covered. =A0And the hooks for the buckets were
incorrectly placed. =A0To me these are very minor errors. =A0The kit i=
s
generally quite accurate with very good detail.

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.

Lindberg came out with the Dornier Pfiel, the Heinkel Salamander and
the Messerschmitt Komet years before anyone else bothered. Their kits
have generally good entry-level offerings and a reasonable starting
point for some serious kitbashing.
And who else has produced a He.100D?

=A0 =A0 I thought MPM has done one. =A0Am I in error? =A0As for Lindberg'=
s, I
liked it and have built a few of them over the years.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

If MPM made one, I've never seen it sold locally. I've bashed a number
of the Lindberg 100s, besides the actual test aircraft, a couple of
"front line" fighters (never got that far) and several of the design
prototypes that included a contra-rotating prop and swept-forward
wings, usually done as front liners as well.

any pictures you are willing to share? they sound cool. i've done almost all
the varietys of ar 234 prototypes. i've done trolley, 2 engine, both 4 engine
x's, night fighters, etc. the nightfighters turned out better than eitther
the heller or revelle kits, which were supposed to be nf's but were just
messes.
sure, the first assembly is removing the rivets and rescribing all the panel
lines. it doesn't take that much effort and it sure teaches you how to do the
panel lines. this very usefull skill's learning cost is cheap and and the
results are very satisying as you improve.
i've also learned how to paint or make canopy frames, how to prepare and make
vacum formed canopys, and other small parts. that is no small feat, a crappy
canopy makes for a crappy model.
i've learned 4-5 ways to make rigging, gun barrels, antennas, tires and treads
and bulges, how to make and repair parts, and how ro mark and paint. all of
this for relatively short money. and the best part? i've had lots of fun,
satisfaction and gotten a bargain history education. getting an actual b.a was
almost anticlimatic. my reading and research into how to build figures and
hardware necessitated learning lots of history. i worked on that b.a. from
the time i was 7 to the day i had sufficent credits to get it. it may have
taken 40+ years, but i did it. my lindberg "textbooks" were a real teacher and
a bargain.
if you subscribe to a snob idea that learning and fun must be pricey, well, i
pity you. (not YOU personaly, old man.)
sure, super kits and shake and bakes can be fun, too. but as a guy once said
about collecting large cents, i paraphrase, spending an evening looking
through and studying a box of those old coins can be very satisfying and
rewarding.
build what you love. remember what al s said.....
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:19 pm
Guest
In article <d97a8d6d-c375-4ba9-8505-fb1f1baada59 at (no spam) k26g2000vbp.googlegroups.com>, eyeball <eyeball2002308 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 30, 2:20=A0am, William Banaszak <vze3z... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Val Kraut wrote:
some people may dump on lindberg, ignoring the fact they do make a lot=
of
kits
others don't. their jn4 kit is the best around and reasonable.
i like the 1/72 german kits because you can make them as well as your
talents
allow. some of them are packed 2 to a box for 10-12 bucks.
if you want to build easy 100 dollar kits, fine. i want to practice my
scratch
building on harder kits that don't cost a left nut.
the people at lindberg do listen and respond to emails. so don't kill =
of
another model company with indifference.

I didn't mean this as a shot at Lindberg in particular. In Fact I just
purchased multiple copies of Linberg re-releases that I originally did =
when
they first came out. Not exactly new high tech - but with a little work
build into a passable result. others in my opinion should not again see=
the
light of flouresents in the local hobby shop - yet if people enjoy them=
and
they sell - so why not. My gripe was with how the companies react to th=
e
hardline modelers.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Val Kraut

=A0 =A0 That's because we're the luatic fringe. =A0We buy models because
that's what we do. =A0We do not represent a mass market.
=A0 =A0 The same situation applies to Star Trek. =A0When the studio puts =
out a
film, they really don't care if they don't follow established canon.
It's their product and they'll make it the way they think will sell
tickets and let us Trekkers fret over the non-compliances.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.

That all-red me262 I saw online isn't canon?!
not even doctrine!
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:25 pm
Guest
In article <4aeafae6$0$48222$815e3792 at (no spam) news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stauffer at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote:
Quote:
WmB wrote:
"Don Stauffer" <stauffer at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote in message
news:4ae9a093$0$48226$815e3792 at (no spam) news.qwest.net...
Sir Ridesalot wrote:

Hi there.

I think that any military Lindberg kit and a positive response is an
oxymoron.

Cheers from Peter
I recently finished the Lindberg Civil War cannon. I thought it was great.
I showed it to a civil war artillery expert yesterday. She pointed out
that the limber seat covered with leather is not correct, it should have
been copper covered. And the hooks for the buckets were incorrectly
placed. To me these are very minor errors. The kit is generally quite
accurate with very good detail.

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.

I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it - which
way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about it?

WmB


Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative comments
are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I will redo the
limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm sure it
was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try one now that i'm
a bit better.
 
R. Franklin...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 9:13 pm
Guest
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT), The Old Man
<Braungart at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:


Quote:
Lindberg came out with the Dornier Pfiel, the Heinkel Salamander and
the Messerschmitt Komet years before anyone else bothered. Their kits
have generally good entry-level offerings and a reasonable starting
point for some serious kitbashing.
And who else has produced a He.100D?

Found a bunch!
Special Hobby in 1:32
HiPM in 1:48
Special Hobby in 1:72
The 1:32 would be sweet but no doubt costs a mint...
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 11:17 pm
Guest
In article <thane5pf58sn11kvcuhq5k7u1h0eqnipfm at (no spam) 4ax.com>, R. Franklin <rfranklin at (no spam) ripnet.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:54:55 -0700 (PDT), The Old Man
Braungart at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:


Lindberg came out with the Dornier Pfiel, the Heinkel Salamander and
the Messerschmitt Komet years before anyone else bothered. Their kits
have generally good entry-level offerings and a reasonable starting
point for some serious kitbashing.
And who else has produced a He.100D?

Found a bunch!
Special Hobby in 1:32
HiPM in 1:48
Special Hobby in 1:72
The 1:32 would be sweet but no doubt costs a mint...

not as big and not for shake and bake, the hipm kit
is very nice. it's pricey, too, but it can build up to a really
nice bird. i've seen two built and have one in the stash. i'm
still learning some new fangled materials so i'm not ready.
their bv 141 is also a real gem. a kind soul from this group
sold me one for fair money.
i haven't finished it yet, i'm doing a slow, careful job to make it last and
good.
i looked at the big special hobby and it isn't as nice as the hipm, imnsho.
the lindberg can be detailed as nicely as you want. i've added motors,
interiors, wheels and gear, guns and even made a pavement dio.
the he162 is a real challenge to make less toy like. but it makes up nicely,
too.
i realize the original starter of this thread was yanking a bit.
 
Don Stauffer...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:00 am
Guest
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Quote:
Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it - which
way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about it?

WmB


Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative comments
are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I will redo the
limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm sure it
was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try one now that i'm
a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:10 am
Guest
In article <4aec50f6$0$16048$815e3792 at (no spam) news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stauffer at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote:
Quote:
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it - which

way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about it?

WmB


Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative comments
are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I will redo the
limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm sure it
was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try one now that i'm

a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.
great, just give us a heads up and off we go. i may do some pics of my older

builds before they get packed. i may post some pics of the least
embarassing....
 
William Banaszak...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:00 am
Guest
Don Stauffer wrote:
Quote:
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it
- which way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about
it?

WmB

Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative
comments are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I
will redo the limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm
sure it was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try
one now that i'm a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.

We've had 8 days of sun for the whole month here in Pennsylvania.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:42 am
Guest
In article <SIadneCwyYVhvnDXnZ2dnUVZ_qti4p2d at (no spam) giganews.com>, William Banaszak <vze3zb2k at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote:
Don Stauffer wrote:
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it
- which way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about
it?

WmB

Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative
comments are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I
will redo the limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm
sure it was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try
one now that i'm a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.

We've had 8 days of sun for the whole month here in Pennsylvania.

Bill Banaszak, MFE Sr.
we had half a day of cloud that stayed until the middle of the second day.

i just can't take the dark and overcast weather. the land is unenlightened and
dee-pression sets in like a heavy blanket of gloom and doom. where is my sun?
why is this evil darkness making depression sit like an albatross of
gloom flighted across my bleak emotional landscape? why must i suffer when
darkness inhabits my space? i must escape to my cardboard space surronded
by sunlamps. success can be created through light and denial of the gloom.
 
Don Stauffer...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 12:01 pm
Guest
Don Stauffer wrote:
Quote:
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it
- which way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about
it?

WmB

Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative
comments are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I
will redo the limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm
sure it was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try
one now that i'm a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.


Whoops, I confused the newsgroup with one of my Yahoo modeling
discussion groups. No web site for this group. I suppose I will have
to ftp pics to my own web site. I haven't done that in several years-
hope I can figure out how Smile
 
someone at (no spam) some.domain...
Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 9:17 pm
Guest
In article <4aedb464$0$1329$815e3792 at (no spam) news.qwest.net>, Don Stauffer <stauffer at (no spam) usfamily.net> wrote:
Quote:
Don Stauffer wrote:
someone at (no spam) some.domain wrote:

Lindberg has a long history of producing both wheat and chaff.
I remember a while back when you had a few painting questions on it
- which way did you eventually go and what did she have to say about
it?

WmB

Greyish green (except for bronze barrel. The only two negative
comments are above- other than that she really liked it. I think I
will redo the limber lid to make it copper covered.

any chance of pictures? i believe i built one when i was 8 or 9. i'm
sure it was nowhere near as good as your build. perhaps i should try
one now that i'm a bit better.

Sure. I usually like sun for model pictures and we are having some bad
weather- October has been one of rainiest in history. But next week is
supposed to be nice. I'll post them in photos section of group web site.


Whoops, I confused the newsgroup with one of my Yahoo modeling
discussion groups. No web site for this group. I suppose I will have
to ftp pics to my own web site. I haven't done that in several years-
hope I can figure out how Smile

of course you can, ain't nothing dumb on your end.
if there is anything of mine you want, just ask.
you're a smart guy, so please post and ask for anything you wish for.
we know you're sharp. you can do anyhing, i believe.
 
 
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