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On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days
blah blah blah...
He's been in decline for about 500 days, so there goes your theory.
And your theory of "500 days" is flawed and as I said above you are a
bigot when it comes anything remotely associated with Man U and
England, oh I know you give the odd concession to Rooney. I recall
your comments about Lampard being "basically useless".
Don't try so hard when the results are so poor. I said Lampard is
useless in a certain position, not that he is useless per se. I know
strawman arguments are your forte but their really getting tiresome.
As to other England players, when they're good I only have good things
to say about them. I recognise Terry as, still, a top defender.
Ferdinand, on the other hand, is poor now, and has gotten
progressively worse since at least the last part of the 08 season,
IMO. I has observed it at the time and made comment at the beginning
of last season ( I don't remember where I posted it, but it was likely
on another forum, not this one) to effect that he is no longer
reliable.
Everything subsequent that has happened subsequent to that has
reinforced that belief.
You really are a squirmer aren't you?
If a recall correctly the position you said that Lampard was
"basically useless" was the one in which he plays as an attacking
midfielder.
Yes, as an attacking midfielder, for example at the top of a midfield
diamond, he's useless. As Ancelotti has found out quickly this season
and abandoned trying to experiment with him there, instead turning to
Deco and now Joe Cole.
Please provide your proof that Ferdinand has been in decline since the
end of the 08 season. There is ample proof that he has been well and
truly below his best this season, but the last one too? Without any
back up for your bigoted assertions your opinions are worthless.
You are an idiot. You yourself admit that he was good in 08, not as
good in 09, and poor this season. Is that a declining trend or not? I
just disagree about it's extent. Proof? It's in his games. But I'm not
in the habit of keeping a collection of Man Utd games on tape so you
will have research it yourself.
You are the one who shouted your big mouth about RF being in decline
for two seasons, then it was 500 days and now it is the end of season
08. I asked for you evidence, you are either too lazy or unable to do
so.
You need to work on your maths. The last part of the 08 season is 500
days before present.
I gave my evidence for his obvious decline this season.
Re Lampard, please explain his outstanding goal scoring record playing
in an attacking midfield role, considering he is "useless" in that
role.
There's attacking midfield and then there's attacking midfield, it
would seem. His customary position in the last years at Chelsea, in
the system they play is on one side of the holding midfielder in a
4-3-3 cum 4-5-1 formation. That isn't 'attacking midfield' anymore
than Essien or Ballack's roles on the other side of the holding
player. I remember quite clearly saying 'put him in a truly creative
position, say at the apex of a midfield diamond, and he's basically
useless'. Ancelotti has found that out well. That position calls for
great technique and skill on the ball, the ability to beat players one-
on-one and/or notable pace, and Lampard doesn't cut it in either
category.
He has always played in an advanced role long before Ancelotti's
diamond. Just a comment on the this diamond, I can't believe all the
hype as if it is some revolutionary idea. I've coached junior sides,
as have many others I know using that system for many years.
Titling at windmills again?
So no evidence then, just your much vaunted opinion to go by. Lol!
So where exactly does Lampard play if not in an attacking midfield?
Funny because whenever I have seen him play that is exactly where he
plays. Lampard's goal scoring record is second to none, when it comes
to midfielders. What more do you want from the man?
Are you saying the diamond formation/idea is new?
You are wasting your time with this bloke, he hasn't got a clue
