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| Alkamista... |
 Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:47 pm |
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His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello. |
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| MH... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 8:22 pm |
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Alkamista wrote:
Quote: His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
Maybe he and Carragher have been smoking the same stuff ? |
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| Alkamista... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:08 am |
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On Oct 26, 2:58 pm, Benny <Be... at (no spam) soccer-europe.com> wrote:
Quote: > Subject : Rio Ferdinand
> From : alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com
> Funny that three successive Spain managers, with a wealth of midfield
> talent to choose from, have always called Xabi up regularly - even
> before he moved to Liverpool, so it is not just the big club effect.
> Alonso looked like he would become an outstanding all-round midfielder
> when he was a young talent at Real Sociedad. Great year in 2002-2003
> (when Sociedad almost managed a title), and very good year the next
> year. I have to confess to being disappointed that he didn't develop
> better and faster at Liverpool (I blame Benitez's inherant caution and
> Gerrards prima donna attidude for part of this; also he had some serious
> injuries like when Lampard broke his leg), but I still think he is a
> very useful player - Real overpaid for him at 30 million, but he was
> still a worthwhile addition.
> His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
> former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
> have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
> reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
Up until yesterday you could say the same for Carragher.
And people have been saying it.
Quote: Ferdinand's back problems are to blame for his decline.
His problems are that this is a pre-WC season. Any long term injuries
or dips in form could cost him dear, especially with an unemotional
coach like Capello. Carragher's problems OTOH are more related to his
club place, where he has two fit and very strong defenders to compete
with. Ferdinand doesn't have that problem at the club level. |
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| UnixDeveloper... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:18 pm |
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This is not the same Ferdinand of 2002. I think injuries have slowed
him. It is bad news for him and England. |
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| UnixDeveloper... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:25 pm |
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I think Rio borderline England just like Owen. He made some huge
blunders and Capello has a decision to make. |
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| Jellore... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:58 am |
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On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
And I really don't care what nincompoops think, whether it be roundly
or any other shape.
Please explain why you think he has been in decline for the past two
seasons, leaving aside the past 3 months where clearly he has
struggled. |
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| Jellore... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:59 am |
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On Oct 29, 6:18 am, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
He is struggling with a back injury, it's hard to be world class when
you are playing hurt.
I agree with you about 90 odd% of the way. If this is the case should
he be playing? |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:18 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
<jellore at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
He is struggling with a back injury, it's hard to be world class when
you are playing hurt. |
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| Abubakr... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:57 pm |
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On 29 Oct, 07:58, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
And I really don't care what nincompoops think, whether it be roundly
or any other shape.
Please explain why you think he has been in decline for the past two
seasons, leaving aside the past 3 months where clearly he has
struggled.
Players decline, it's the law of the jungle. Causes are a whole of
host things from physical problems to motivation and attitude, but
usually a combination of all those factors. |
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| Abubakr... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:11 pm |
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On 29 Oct, 15:42, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days
blah blah blah...
He's been in decline for about 500 days, so there goes your theory. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:38 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:59:01 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
<jellore at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 29, 6:18 am, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:01:51 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
He is struggling with a back injury, it's hard to be world class when
you are playing hurt.
I agree with you about 90 odd% of the way. If this is the case should
he be playing?
Well he hasn't been playing that often has he? I guess it's one of
those type injuries that you have to try and play through. It's
definitely affected his pace and that's what Rio depends on.
He hasn't been out of sorts 2 seasons, whoever wrote that is just
plan insane, he's been off this season. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:42 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
<jellore at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days |
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| Jellore... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:37 am |
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On Oct 29, 4:11 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On 29 Oct, 15:42, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final..
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days
blah blah blah...
He's been in decline for about 500 days, so there goes your theory.
And your theory of "500 days" is flawed and as I said above you are a
bigot when it comes anything remotely associated with Man U and
England, oh I know you give the odd concession to Rooney. I recall
your comments about Lampard being "basically useless". |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:02 pm |
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On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:11:00 -0700 (PDT), Abubakr
<deltarasha at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On 29 Oct, 15:42, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days
blah blah blah...
He's been in decline for about 500 days, so there goes your theory.
Says you (and you don't matter) |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:12 pm |
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On 30 Oct, 07:37, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 29, 4:11 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 29 Oct, 15:42, REDDEV... at (no spam) nospam.net wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:58:26 -0700 (PDT), Jellore
jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 11:50 pm, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 28 Oct, 23:01, Jellore <jell... at (no spam) bigpond.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 12:54 am, Abubakr <deltara... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 26 Oct, 11:47, Alkamista <alkami... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
His decline this seaosn has been shocking; the guy is a shell of his
former self. His decision making has been bad and he just seems to
have lost his confidence. He better pull his socks up quick because
reputations mean nothing to Signore Capello.
He's been in decline for at least a couple of seasons.
Absolute and utter bigoted crap. The season before last, when his team
won the ECL he was roundly acknowledged to be the best defender in
Europe. Last season by those lofty standards was low key, although he
still managed to help his team win the EPL and reach the ECL final.
This makes his poor form this season all the more surprising.
How is holding the opinion that Ferdinand has been in decline for a
couple of years a form of bigotry? Please explain.
It's not a form of bigotry, however it is a sign of someone who has no
idea of what he is talking about. He is a World Class defender that
has been having problems getting back to fitness the last 90 days
blah blah blah...
He's been in decline for about 500 days, so there goes your theory.
And your theory of "500 days" is flawed and as I said above you are a
bigot when it comes anything remotely associated with Man U and
England, oh I know you give the odd concession to Rooney. I recall
your comments about Lampard being "basically useless".
Don't try so hard when the results are so poor. I said Lampard is
useless in a certain position, not that he is useless per se. I know
strawman arguments are your forte but their really getting tiresome.
As to other England players, when they're good I only have good things
to say about them. I recognise Terry as, still, a top defender.
Ferdinand, on the other hand, is poor now, and has gotten
progressively worse since at least the last part of the 08 season,
IMO. I has observed it at the time and made comment at the beginning
of last season ( I don't remember where I posted it, but it was likely
on another forum, not this one) to effect that he is no longer
reliable.
Everything subsequent that has happened subsequent to that has
reinforced that belief. |
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