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Herbert Cannon...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:06 am
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From: <JSFarnam at (no spam) aol.com>
To: <dtiquips at (no spam) clouds.com>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: [Dtiquips] Superpower no Longer?


23 Oct 09

Superpower no longer?

This from friend in the System:

"The Chinese and Russians, in contemptuous disregard for the endless string
of treaties to which only the USA anally adheres, have been busy building,
and openly testing, a new generation of Mobile ICBMs. We have nothing
like it!

Within a year or two, the US will be forced to retire its entire ICBM
fleet, because of age. We have no replacements, nor any ability to make new
ones. We stopped building nuclear warheads in 1989, when Bush1 shut down
the
Rocky Flats Plant in CO. In 1992, as a parting abomination upon his
Country, Bush1 unilaterally stopped all testing at the Nevada Test Site.
Tribal
knowledge in building nuclear weapons has since been almost entirely lost,
as
the people who did it are long-since deceased or retired.

We've belatedly begun manufacturing some replacement triggers, but the
process is timid and slow. 'Readiness of the stockpile,' is now laughingly
'
verified' via dubious computer-simulations, so we're fat, dumb, and happy in
the 'knowledge' of what 'should happen.' When asked about 'readiness,'
we continue to naively nod 'yes,' having no idea of what we're agreeing
to. We don't really know if any of them will any longer work of not!

We used to make wonderfully elegant weapons, but as with our Saturn V and
the SR-71, we, as a civilization, literally no longer have the ability, nor
the national will, to make such things. As a civilization, we have stopped
moving forward. And, while we dither, our world enemies continue to
develop new and advanced weapons at a dizzying pace, weapons for which we
have
no equivalent.

We are rapidly being outclassed, and the subject is almost never
discussed. Why have these facts have not been disseminated (they are out
there in
open literature)? We all know why!

Naive, vain, guilt-ridden, technology-hating American Liberals naively
believe that our nuclear weapons are 'evil,' (everyone else's are apparently
okay!) and that we, as a nation, don't need them, just as they stupidly
believe the same about land-mines."

Comment: The current Administration, like the last three, apparently
couldn't care less!

And, lest we let Carter off the hook, he was the fool who unilaterally
decreed that we will not reprocess spent fuel. Everyone else does!

The riddance of the USA as a world, military superpower, with accurate,
projectable, nuclear weapons, has been a wet-dream of Russia and China since
the end of WWII. We are currently doing virtually everything possible to
assist them in achieving that goal!

We don't need "enemies!"
 
Herbert Cannon...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:09 am
Guest
And more:
http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/10/21/iran-cons-hillary-on-nukes/
 
travisgod at (no spam) aol.cominyrface...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:20 pm
Guest
On Oct 24, 12:06 pm, "Herbert Cannon" <hcanno... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote:
From: <JSFar... at (no spam) aol.com
To: <dtiqu... at (no spam) clouds.com
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2009 12:10 PM
Subject: [Dtiquips] Superpower no Longer?

23 Oct 09

Superpower no longer?

This from friend in the System:

"The Chinese and Russians, in contemptuous disregard for the endless string
 of treaties to which only the USA anally adheres, have been busy building,
and  openly testing, a new generation of Mobile ICBMs.  We have nothing
like  it!

Within a year or two, the US will be forced to retire its entire ICBM
fleet, because of age. We have no replacements, nor any ability to make new
ones.  We stopped building nuclear warheads in 1989, when Bush1 shut down
the
Rocky Flats Plant in CO.  In 1992, as a parting abomination upon his
Country, Bush1 unilaterally stopped all testing at the Nevada Test Site.
Tribal
knowledge in building nuclear weapons has since been almost entirely lost,
as
 the people who did it are long-since deceased or retired.

We've belatedly begun manufacturing some replacement triggers, but the
process is timid and slow. 'Readiness of the stockpile,' is now laughingly
'
verified' via dubious computer-simulations, so we're fat, dumb, and happy in
 the 'knowledge' of what 'should happen.'  When asked about 'readiness,'
we  continue to naively nod 'yes,' having no idea of what we're agreeing
to.   We don't really know if any of them will any longer work of not!

We used to make wonderfully elegant weapons, but as with our Saturn V and
the SR-71, we, as a civilization, literally no longer have the ability, nor
the  national will, to make such things.  As a civilization, we have stopped
 moving forward.  And, while we dither, our world enemies continue to
develop new and advanced weapons at a dizzying pace, weapons for which we
have
no equivalent.

We are rapidly being outclassed, and the subject is almost never
discussed.  Why have these facts have not been disseminated (they are out
there in
open literature)?  We all know why!

Naive, vain, guilt-ridden, technology-hating American Liberals naively
believe that our nuclear weapons are 'evil,' (everyone else's are apparently
okay!) and that we, as a nation, don't need them, just as they stupidly
believe  the same about land-mines."

Comment:  The current Administration, like the last three, apparently
couldn't care less!

And, lest we let Carter off the hook, he was the fool who unilaterally
decreed that we will not reprocess spent fuel.  Everyone else does!

The riddance of the USA as a world, military superpower, with accurate,
projectable, nuclear weapons, has been a wet-dream of Russia and China since
the  end of WWII.  We are currently doing virtually everything possible to
assist them in achieving that goal!

We don't need "enemies!"


more bullshit cheerleading from the war maggot

Trav
 
Herbert Cannon...
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:06 pm
Guest
more bullshit cheerleading from the war maggot

Been busy sucking blood from your hosts parasitic leech?
 
Herbert Cannon...
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 6:43 am
Guest
more bullshit cheerleading from the war maggot

http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=238350
 
Shuurai...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:28 am
Guest
Quote:
"The Chinese and Russians, in contemptuous disregard for the endless string
 of treaties to which only the USA anally adheres, have been busy building,
and  openly testing, a new generation of Mobile ICBMs.  We have nothing
like  it!

We don't need anything like it.

The focus of our nuclear deterrent has shifted to our Navy, and it has
been that way for years. We depend on submarine based missiles
instead of ICBM's because they are easier to secure and maintain, are
harder to disable by a preemptive enemy strike, and because they can
strike with far less warning. They're also cheaper to build because
they don't have to travel as far.

Not to mention the fact that our stealth bombers can hit nearly any
target on the planet with absolutely ZERO notice given to the enemy.

The reason that countries like Russia and China depend more heavily on
ICBMs is because they have not been as successful as the United States
at developing smaller warheads. Our warheads deliver the same blast
at a much smaller size - so we don't NEED a massive rocket to get them
to the target.
 
Herbert Cannon...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:50 pm
Guest
"Shuurai" <shuurai11 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:16f6efbe-d97a-46be-a285-6973beb14768 at (no spam) t11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

Quote:
"The Chinese and Russians, in contemptuous disregard for the endless
string
of treaties to which only the USA anally adheres, have been busy building,
and openly testing, a new generation of Mobile ICBMs. We have nothing
like it!

We don't need anything like it.

Interesting observation. I believe one of the points is that China and
Russia are violating the nuclear treaties and not the need for it.

The focus of our nuclear deterrent has shifted to our Navy, and it has
been that way for years. We depend on submarine based missiles
instead of ICBM's because they are easier to secure and maintain, are
harder to disable by a preemptive enemy strike, and because they can
strike with far less warning. They're also cheaper to build because
they don't have to travel as far.

I cannot answer for all those assertions. I have been out of that area for
too long. It may be that Russia and China are trying to counter our
dominance with mobile land based ICBMs which would also be much harder to
hit than fixed sites? During the cold war both superpowers had pretty tight
command and control systems and realized there was MAD.
Now you have a proliferation of nukes less stable governments.

Not to mention the fact that our stealth bombers can hit nearly any
target on the planet with absolutely ZERO notice given to the enemy.

They have to get off the ground first. Our policy during the cold war was
first strike - with the pc attitudes of today I wonder if we would even
entertain that policy today.

The reason that countries like Russia and China depend more heavily on
ICBMs is because they have not been as successful as the United States
at developing smaller warheads.

China has no submarine navy to speak of and the USSR navy fell apart when it
broke up. If you have a large land area to play with it, seems to make sense
to me to have mobile land based ICBM rather than try to develope a submarine
navy to fire them. I find your assertion somewhat questionable.

Our warheads deliver the same blast
at a much smaller size - so we don't NEED a massive rocket to get them
to the target.

Hope so especially with multiple nuclear threats now occurring.
 
 
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