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| Tom C... |
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So, I just bought my first 1911. I very nice Springfield GI with the green
Parkerizing and US engraved wooden grips. I know it is a good pistol to
begin with and I got a GREAT deal on it. I want to do some upgrades to it,
but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so. I
was thinking about a trigger job, lighter trigger, hammer, maybe a full
length guide rod, extended safety lever, beavertail to keep my thumb web
from becoming hamburger, new grips and a beveled mag well. Do I really need
to lower and flare the ejection port and polish and throat the feed ramp?
I guess I'm going to get pretty familiar with my local gun smith.
If I have the ejection port worked on, it will mean losing the parkerizing,
so I'm not sure if may buying a new slide might be a good idea.
Hmmm. Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
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| John Lemke... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:18 pm |
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Tom C wrote:
# So, I just bought my first 1911. I very nice Springfield GI with the green
# Parkerizing and US engraved wooden grips. I know it is a good pistol to
# begin with and I got a GREAT deal on it. I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so. I
# was thinking about a trigger job, lighter trigger, hammer, maybe a full
# length guide rod, extended safety lever, beavertail to keep my thumb web
# from becoming hamburger, new grips and a beveled mag well. Do I really need
# to lower and flare the ejection port and polish and throat the feed ramp?
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# I guess I'm going to get pretty familiar with my local gun smith.
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# If I have the ejection port worked on, it will mean losing the parkerizing,
# so I'm not sure if may buying a new slide might be a good idea.
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# Hmmm. Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
I in no way mean to be cutting, unkind or a smart-ass here but why
don't you put 500 rounds thru it first? Master it then decide if the
extras will help you shoot it any better.
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| spike... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:18 pm |
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On Oct 24, 8:28�pm, "Tom C" <bettab... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
# So, I just bought my first 1911. �I very nice Springfield GI with the green
# Parkerizing and US engraved wooden grips. �I know it is a good pistol to
# begin with and I got a GREAT deal on it. �I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so. �I
# was thinking about a trigger job, lighter trigger, hammer, maybe a full
# length guide rod, extended safety lever, beavertail to keep my thumb web
# from becoming hamburger, new grips and a beveled mag well. �Do I really need
# to lower and flare the ejection port and polish and throat the feed ramp?
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# I guess I'm going to get pretty familiar with my local gun smith.
#
# If I have the ejection port worked on, it will mean losing the parkerizing,
# so I'm not sure if may buying a new slide might be a good idea.
#
# Hmmm. �Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
#
What makes you think your new 1911 needs all that crap hung on it? It
should run just fine out of the box or I'd send it back to Springfield
to make it do so.
I've got a mid-70s Colt Combat Commander, One of the things I enjoy
the most about it is that other than replacing the barrel bushing,
it's stone stock.
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| Tony W... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:48 am |
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I did some mild mods on my Springfield armory 1911a1. The 2 best mods
were a Chip McCormick semi-drop in sear and a Nolan Aluminum trigger. I
have large hands and the original trigger was never in the right spot
for me. The sear was supposed to need a little work but I think the
trigger pull was perfect for carry use as is.
I've been meaning to get a beaver tail grip safety. With full power
loads the rear of the fame cuts into my hand. So I put a band aid on my
hand before target shooting so I don't need one afterward.
Tony
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| Alex Clayton... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:48 am |
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"Tom C" <bettablue at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:hc062p$86o$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net...
# I guess I'm going to get pretty familiar with my local gun smith.
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# If I have the ejection port worked on, it will mean losing the
# parkerizing,
# so I'm not sure if may buying a new slide might be a good idea.
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# Hmmm. Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
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The FLGR will do nothing, but it is a drop in. As for the rest of the work,
if you really want to do all that, it would be far better to buy one with
that already done. To have that done to a pistol will be very expensive
compared to just buying it already done from the factory. Try it out the way
it is. If you really want the other stuff, either trade for another one, or
keep that one as is and buy a Loaded.
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| Robert Scott... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 7:50 am |
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# I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so.
I'd recommend you shoot it a whole bunch and find out if what, if anything,
you don't like about it. The reason the pistol is still popular after about
a hundred years is that it's a fairly competent design. ;-)
I have big hands and like a beavertail. For the same reason, an extended
safety really makes the pistol ergos work a LOT better for me.
Good shooting,
desmobob
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| Tom S.... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:01 pm |
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# I in no way mean to be cutting, unkind or a smart-ass here but why
# don't you put 500 rounds thru it first? Master it then decide if the
# extras will help you shoot it any better.
Or he should have bought the higher grade Springfield (as I did).
I haven't priced them comparatively, but my quick observation is that
the Springfield, with most bells and whistles, is going to cost a bit
less than a comparable Kimber.
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| Bob Holtzman... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:02 pm |
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On 2009-10-25, Tom C <bettablue at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
# So, I just bought my first 1911. I very nice Springfield GI with the green
# Parkerizing and US engraved wooden grips. I know it is a good pistol to
# begin with and I got a GREAT deal on it. I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so. I
# was thinking about a trigger job, lighter trigger, hammer, maybe a full
# length guide rod, extended safety lever, beavertail to keep my thumb web
# from becoming hamburger, new grips and a beveled mag well. Do I really need
# to lower and flare the ejection port and polish and throat the feed ramp?
Are you a newcomer to shooting a handgun or a newcomer to the .45? If
the latter, it sounds as if you've been reading too many news stand
magazines or are trying to buy good scores. If you are new to handguns
put the .45 away and find a .22 semi auto with adjustable sights to learn
on. The chances are great that you will never learn the basics with a
...45. The recoil will mask many mistakes.
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Bob Holtzman
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| Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 2:02 pm |
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Of all the mods you have listed, my own 1911 has only had the ramp
polished, which I did myself, and the installation of fancier grips.
It seems to work just fine...
<<Do I really need to lower and flare the ejection port >>
This is mostly of benefit to owners who reload, to prevent denting the
brass. Do you reload 45acp ammo?
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| John Lemke... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:38 am |
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Tom S. wrote:
# # I in no way mean to be cutting, unkind or a smart-ass here but why
# # don't you put 500 rounds thru it first? Master it then decide if the
# # extras will help you shoot it any better.
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# Or he should have bought the higher grade Springfield (as I did).
SA is a great company. I'd recommend them to anyone. My son's first
pistol was an XD. My experience with their products and their customer
service dept. left me amazed.
There's nothing bad about buying a "tricked out" firearm. My
philosophy is the same as yours. Buy the gun you want up front.
Some folks just like buying and building and personalizing things as a
hobby. Sort of like restoring a car.
My 1911 is a Colt series 80 bought a couple decades ago. I've made
absolutely 0 improvements to it. No porting, no beveling, no fancy
trigger. No full
length guide rod, extended safety lever. I did order the beavertail
and dual recoil springs. Officers ACP.
A few years ago my then slightly built 12 year old nephew was
consistently drilling holes dead center on target at 20 feet the first
time he shot it.
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# I haven't priced them comparatively, but my quick observation is that
# the Springfield, with most bells and whistles, is going to cost a bit
# less than a comparable Kimber.
That would be my impression also.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:41 am |
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# I just bought my first 1911.
# I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so.
# Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
If you want a pistol equipped with all the usual accessories out of
the box at a good price have a look at the Taurus.
Otherwise, the only modifications you "need" are decent sights, a good
trigger, and any tuning or smoothing that contributes to absolute
reliability with your chosen defense load.
Then I recommend you attend at least a short course of professional
instruction. Once you have learned proper technique you'll be better
prepared to decide what else - if anything - you need.
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| RBnDFW... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:41 am |
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Tom C wrote:
# So, I just bought my first 1911. I very nice Springfield GI with the green
# Parkerizing and US engraved wooden grips. I know it is a good pistol to
# begin with and I got a GREAT deal on it. I want to do some upgrades to it,
# but don't really want to take out a new mortgage on my house to do so. I
# was thinking about a trigger job, lighter trigger, hammer, maybe a full
# length guide rod, extended safety lever, beavertail to keep my thumb web
# from becoming hamburger, new grips and a beveled mag well. Do I really need
# to lower and flare the ejection port and polish and throat the feed ramp?
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# I guess I'm going to get pretty familiar with my local gun smith.
#
# If I have the ejection port worked on, it will mean losing the parkerizing,
# so I'm not sure if may buying a new slide might be a good idea.
#
# Hmmm. Maybe I should have just saved my money and bought a Kimber.
Yes, and a lot of people have already given you the right advice. Shoot
it the way it is and enjoy it. I recently bought the SS version of your
gun, and it's just right as-is. The trigger could be a little better,
but I can do the Wilson drop-in set if I wish to.
The thing with 1911s is they are like Doritos - you can't stop at 1.
I have 6 at the moment. When I wanted a nice upgraded 1911 with all the
nice stuff, I bought a SIG GSR. Lot of other good choices from SA,
Kimber and everyone else.
Nice gun, enjoy :)
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| DockScience... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:53 am |
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Looked at the Springfield, found it a bit rough, bought the Kimber, love it,
great shooter.
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| R.L. Horn... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:20 am |
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On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:13 +0000 (UTC), Alex Clayton <alexx1400 at (no spam) yahoo.com>
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# The FLGR will do nothing, but it is a drop in.
Not true. It can significantly "smooth up" the action and, in the process,
cause serious reliability problems. I have a full-length guide rod. In a
box. Somewhere.
They are handy if you have a really, really tight bushing that you don't
want to remove every time you field strip.
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| Alex Clayton... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:57 pm |
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"R.L. Horn" <news at (no spam) eastcheap.org> wrote in message
news:hca21d$ir$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net...
# On Sun, 25 Oct 2009 11:48:13 +0000 (UTC), Alex Clayton
# <alexx1400 at (no spam) yahoo.com>
# wrote:
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# # The FLGR will do nothing, but it is a drop in.
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# Not true. It can significantly "smooth up" the action and, in the
# process,
# cause serious reliability problems. I have a full-length guide rod. In a
# box. Somewhere.
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# They are handy if you have a really, really tight bushing that you don't
# want to remove every time you field strip.
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I Have both, and you could never convince me that it does anything. The one
1911 I still have one in, it is there only because I used to have a
Mech-Tech upper . It did make it nice for swapping the upper onto the frame.
I long ago let someone talk me out of the Mech-Tech, but have left the FLGR
in that one pistol in case I buy another. When I have put one in a pistol it
worked and felt exactly the same as it did with the original set up. They
always looked to me like a solution in search of a non existent problem.
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