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| Dennis M... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:40 pm |
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I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years. |
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| Martin H. Eastburn... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:25 pm |
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Our yellows were blooming last week and the reds are in bloom now.
Some roses are one-time-only but there are those that bloom and bloom.
[ our purples are not blooming nor are the pinks ]
Martin
Dennis M wrote:
Quote: I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years. |
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| Phisherman... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:31 pm |
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:40:30 -0500, dennism3 at (no spam) dennism3.invalid (Dennis
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Quote: I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years.
My Don Juan roses are still in bloom (10-21-09) in e.TN. I'm in a
valley protected by the Cumberlands to the north and Appalachians to
the southeast. Not enough frost to kill the annuals yet. |
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| David E. Ross... |
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:57 pm |
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On 10/21/2009 2:40 PM, Dennis M wrote:
Quote: I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years.
This might be unusual where you live, but not in my garden. 'Pink
Perfume' and 'Color Magic' just finished blooming. 'Honor', climbing
'4th of July', 'Salmon Ovation' (a miniature), and 'Arizona' are
blooming right now. 'Mr. Lincoln', 'Iceberg', 'Sunsprite', and climbing
'Dublin Bay' have buds that will open within a week. I expect climbing
'Peace' will bloom before Thanksgiving.
That accounts for 11 of my 14 roses. The three remaining are struggling
because they are too close to my oak tree.
It's not unusual for some of my roses to be in bloom on New Years Day,
when I'm pruning them. Then I present my wife with a rose bouquet to
brighten her day.
After pruning early in January, my roses start blooming again in April.
Some remain in bloom almost continuously until pruned again at the end
of the year. Others bloom on and off, but they repeat every few weeks
throughout the spring, summer, and fall.
If your roses don't normally bloom at this time of year, that is a
result of your climate. But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for
a few weeks in May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong
varieties, prune them wrong, or fail to feed and water them properly.
--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary> |
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| DEM... |
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:36 am |
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Quote: I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses
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decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years.
No roses blooming but I have an Indian Crab Apple tree that just burst out
with a couple of beautiful pink blossoms!
Donna
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| Dennis M... |
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 12:05 pm |
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Quote: But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I imagine
they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
Don't do a lot of pruning unless a stem gets completely out of hand and
begins to touch the ground, then I might prune some of the other stems
while I'm at it.
I was told to prune the stem in a diagonal direction about an inch or two
after a perpendicular stem, and that's the way I do it.
Quote: or fail to feed and water them properly.
I never "feed or water" them, I'm not really a big flower/plant person. I'm
happy to just appreciate them for the few weeks in May, this year they were
particularly big and beautiful.
Another thing I thought of, they could've decided to bloom in the fall
because it's been pretty rainy the past couple of months. |
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:08 am |
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On 10/22/09 2:05 PM, in article
dennism3-ya02408000R2210091305360001 at (no spam) news.datemas.de, "Dennis M"
<dennism3 at (no spam) dennism3.invalid> wrote:
Quote: But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I imagine
they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
Sorry I missed your original post - take them for the gift they are. My
grandmother always called those fall roses gifts of grace.
Cheryl |
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| DEM... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:50 am |
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Quote:
But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I
imagine
they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
Quote: Sorry I missed your original post - take them for the gift they are. My
grandmother always called those fall roses gifts of grace.
Cheryl
Gifts of grace....thtt's exactly what they are having come the words
of an elder who would know.
Thanks, Cheryl.
Donna
in WA |
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| jeff... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:03 pm |
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Dennis M wrote:
Quote: I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
Got a few blooming here in zone 7, and I have one rose that has it's
first bloom of the year, and it's a beaut. If you have an everbearing
rose, my observation is that they kick in after a wet spell, which we've
had.
Jeff
Quote: This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
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| David E. Ross... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:13 pm |
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On 10/22/2009 11:05 AM, Dennis M wrote:
Quote: But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I imagine
they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
prune them wrong,
Don't do a lot of pruning unless a stem gets completely out of hand and
begins to touch the ground, then I might prune some of the other stems
while I'm at it.
I was told to prune the stem in a diagonal direction about an inch or two
after a perpendicular stem, and that's the way I do it.
or fail to feed and water them properly.
I never "feed or water" them, I'm not really a big flower/plant person. I'm
happy to just appreciate them for the few weeks in May, this year they were
particularly big and beautiful.
Another thing I thought of, they could've decided to bloom in the fall
because it's been pretty rainy the past couple of months.
Roses do best if they are severely but carefully pruned in the early
spring (or -- in my climate -- early winter). Go to a good public
library and look for a book on general pruning; most will have a section
just on roses.
Roses require ample water. The soil should remain quite moist during
the growing season, but it should not be soggy.
Roses also require ample nutrients, especially nitrogen. If your soil
tends to be acidic, any general high-nitrogen garden fertilizer --
organic or not -- should be okay. If your soil tends to be alkaline,
dig a little soil sulfur into the top inch of the soil. If leaves are
yellow with green veins, spread a little iron sulfate around the plants.
Most roses sold today are hybrids. They are not natural plants and thus
require more care than Mother Nature provides. If you plan to continue
neglecting your roses, you might as well remove them and plant something
else.
--
David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary> |
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| eva shovelful... |
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:24 pm |
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On Oct 21, 9:31 pm, Phisherman <nob... at (no spam) noone.com> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:40:30 -0500, denni... at (no spam) dennism3.invalid (Dennis
M) wrote:
I arose about a week and a half ago to find the rose bush in my back yard
with two small blooms and a few in the bud stage. Is it common for roses to
decide to bloom in October? Usually it's just for a few weeks in May/early
June and then that's it. The two small blooms are still there now, even
though it's been colder than usual here in Tennessee during October. We've
had a few nights when it's gotten down to 33-35 but so far no hard frosts.
This is the first time I've noticed this, even though I've only been at
this location for three years.
My Don Juan roses are still in bloom (10-21-09) in e.TN. I'm in a
valley protected by the Cumberlands to the north and Appalachians to
the southeast. Not enough frost to kill the annuals yet.
I don't have any roses blooming on the one rose bush that came with
our new home, but the neighbor's old fashioned bridal wreath spirea
has five flowers on it and it's an old shrub. we went to Nashville
last week on errands and in Centennial Park where they had a rose
garden I couldn't believe all the roses that were either blooming or
were in beautiful perfect bud. and the roses they had planted were
wonderfully fragrant as well. we've had yet more rain here in the
western portion of the state, and I'm seeing signs of spring more than
signs of fall around here, particularly the azalea that sits out front
of our house is covered in buds. I just hope it doesn't decide to
break bud and flower before next spring. but what can you do? I'm
not wishing for frost yet. I have to decide where to put houseplants
that have had a good summer so far and the shock of being inside will
be coupled with finding adequate places for sunlight for my cactus and
other pots of tender plants.
Eva |
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| Cheryl Isaak... |
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:13 am |
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On 10/23/09 10:50 AM, in article yojEm.286146$cf6.259685 at (no spam) newsfe16.iad, "DEM"
<bckwrds at (no spam) q.com> wrote:
Quote:
But if your roses only bloom once a year ("for a few weeks in
May/early June and then that's it"), you picked the wrong varieties,
I didn't pick them, I inherited them from the previous homeowner. I
imagine
they're just your run of the mill red variety, nothing exotic.
Sorry I missed your original post - take them for the gift they are. My
grandmother always called those fall roses gifts of grace.
Cheryl
Gifts of grace....thtt's exactly what they are having come the words
of an elder who would know.
Thanks, Cheryl.
Donna
in WA
You're welcome!
Cheryl |
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| Dennis M... |
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:02 pm |
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In article <UvKdneGk58bigX_XnZ2dnUVZ_hidnZ2d at (no spam) posted.docknet>, "David E.
Ross" <nobody at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Roses also require ample nutrients, especially nitrogen. If your soil
tends to be acidic, any general high-nitrogen garden fertilizer --
organic or not -- should be okay. If your soil tends to be alkaline,
dig a little soil sulfur into the top inch of the soil. If leaves are
yellow with green veins, spread a little iron sulfate around the plants.
My lawn is probably a basket case as lawns go -- I live near a heavily
wooded area and the backyard especially is bumpy as all getout due to years
and years of mole infestation.
Quote: Most roses sold today are hybrids. They are not natural plants and thus
require more care than Mother Nature provides. If you plan to continue
neglecting your roses, you might as well remove them and plant something
else.
I'll try to remember to throw a bucket of water on them regularly next
season, maybe even buy some plant food for them. The big problem is my
water tap/lawn hose is in the front of the house, and the rose bush is in
the backyard. Kind of big hassle to drag it all the way around just to
water one plant.
They could probably use some kind of tressel too -- they're just in the
middle of a big space letting it all hang out and this causes them to droop
severely when the blooms come. |
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| James... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 5:42 am |
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Walmart sells a watering pail for $3 that would be perfect to water one
bush......
James
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I'll try to remember to throw a bucket of water on them regularly next
season, maybe even buy some plant food for them. The big problem is my
water tap/lawn hose is in the front of the house, and the rose bush is in
the backyard. Kind of big hassle to drag it all the way around just to
water one plant. |
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| Dennis M... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:48 pm |
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In article <vOCdnSHgM54mpHnXnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d at (no spam) posted.localnet>, "James" <no
one at (no spam) bellsouth.com> wrote:
Quote: Walmart sells a watering pail for $3 that would be perfect to water one
bush......
James
cool I'll check it out |
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