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Greg Mossman...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:07 am
Guest
I had to re-read this one. At first, I thought the guy who hit his
head and started swallowing water was sure to be the casualty, but
he's OK (so fie on all of you who think it necessary to keep reg in
mouth until aboard the boat). RIP buddy, however, who probably had a
heart attack. The article doesn't venture a guess as to cause of
death, but it does put in a plug for PADI:

"There is no record of Brown receiving either a Professional
Association of Diving Instructors (PADI) or National Association of
Underwater Instructors scuba certification, according to an online
records search using his name and date of birth. It is not illegal to
dive without certification, but dive businesses will not fill divers'
tanks without the certification.

"As part of gaining a scuba certification, divers are tested and
trained on such experiences as dropping a weight belt and surfacing
when a problem arises and when struggling to surface. PADI training
courses also outline how to deal with swift currents and advise always
having someone stay in the boat while diving."

http://keysnews.com/node/17718

That's how the article ends, implying that a PADI training course may
have saved the guy's life. How does PADI train divers to "deal with
swift currents" anyway? Is there a special PADI finning technique?

I also think it's a bit lousy for the newspaper to make the
implication that the diver was uncertified just because they couldn't
find him in PADI or NAUI records, as if those are the only certifying
organizations in town. Did they think to check the guy's wallet for a
C-card?
 
Greg Mossman...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:45 pm
Guest
On Oct 20, 2:02 pm, "Grumman-581" <grumman581-rec-sc... at (no spam) spambob.net>
wrote:
Quote:
Greg Mossman <moss... at (no spam) qnet.com> wrote innews:2bd9b1a3-e252-43c4-956a-de99819a4ba4 at (no spam) e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

How does PADI train divers to "deal with swift currents" anyway?  Is
there a special PADI finning technique?

I think they just tell them to grab onto the coral... <snicker

That's TDI. Seriously. On the Tahiti Aggressor, I was "awarded" a
TDI Pass Flying (Drift Diving) certification. After all, it was free
and didn't require a book, exam, or attending any kind of class other
than listening to the dive briefings and DM's explanation on how to
properly use and stow a reef hook. During a few of the dives, because
the current was so strong that reef hooks would just bend, we were
"instructed" by the DM to hold on to live hard coral (there really
wasn't any dead coral since the atolls, at the time, were very
healthy). Fortunately for the corals, the Tahiti Aggressor is no more.
 
Grumman-581...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 3:02 pm
Guest
Greg Mossman <mossman at (no spam) qnet.com> wrote in
news:2bd9b1a3-e252-43c4-956a-de99819a4ba4 at (no spam) e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
How does PADI train divers to "deal with swift currents" anyway? Is
there a special PADI finning technique?

I think they just tell them to grab onto the coral... <snicker>

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Grumman-581...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:20 pm
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Greg Mossman <mossman at (no spam) qnet.com> wrote in
news:f7138962-ba86-465d-a250-a5603a358772 at (no spam) x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
That's TDI. Seriously. On the Tahiti Aggressor, I was "awarded" a
TDI Pass Flying (Drift Diving) certification. After all, it was free
and didn't require a book, exam, or attending any kind of class other
than listening to the dive briefings and DM's explanation on how to
properly use and stow a reef hook. During a few of the dives, because
the current was so strong that reef hooks would just bend, we were
"instructed" by the DM to hold on to live hard coral (there really
wasn't any dead coral since the atolls, at the time, were very
healthy).

Obviously, you needed a bigger reef hook...

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022
_treasure_island_anchor.jpg

That should work for you... You might need a bit more lift in your BC
though...

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Dan Bracuk...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:43 pm
Guest
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:20:09 +0000, "Grumman-581" >Obviously, you
needed a bigger reef hook...
Quote:

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022
_treasure_island_anchor.jpg

That should work for you...

This is how it worked for me


The page you were looking for doesn't exist.

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.
 
Scott...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 4:52 pm
Guest
"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk at (no spam) pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:nj3vd5drvlbejpkb6lci9pqjuvnfds9jb9 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:20:09 +0000, "Grumman-581" >Obviously, you
needed a bigger reef hook...

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022
_treasure_island_anchor.jpg

That should work for you...

This is how it worked for me


The page you were looking for doesn't exist.

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.

You have to just a little smarter than the link. It worked fine for me,
after I cut and pasted it into notepad and removed the >

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022_treasure_island_anchor.jpg
 
Grumman-581...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:01 pm
Guest
"Scott" <nunya at (no spam) bidneth.com> wrote in
news:u4CdndbDifA_DULXnZ2dnUVZ_hmdnZ2d at (no spam) supernews.com:

Quote:
You have to just a little smarter than the link. It worked fine for
me, after I cut and pasted it into notepad and removed the

Hmmm... Smarter than the average bear...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pqyax6gwzQ

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Dan Bracuk...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:05 pm
Guest
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:52:13 -0700, "Scott" <nunya at (no spam) bidneth.com> wrote:
Quote:
You have to just a little smarter than the link.

We'll give you a gotcha on that one.
 
Scott...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:20 pm
Guest
"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk at (no spam) pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:jtbvd5po2vmh82e19ac0ij4f8jocdc5rcb at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:52:13 -0700, "Scott" <nunya at (no spam) bidneth.com> wrote:
You have to just a little smarter than the link.

We'll give you a gotcha on that one.


=Wink
 
Hobb...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:33 pm
Guest
Scott wrote:
Quote:
"Dan Bracuk" <NOTbracuk at (no spam) pathcom.com> wrote in message
news:nj3vd5drvlbejpkb6lci9pqjuvnfds9jb9 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:20:09 +0000, "Grumman-581" >Obviously, you
needed a bigger reef hook...
http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022
_treasure_island_anchor.jpg

That should work for you...
This is how it worked for me


The page you were looking for doesn't exist.

You may have mistyped the address or the page may have moved.

You have to just a little smarter than the link. It worked fine for me,
after I cut and pasted it into notepad and removed the

http://indospectrum.com/images/photos/san-francisco-2/cd022_treasure_island_anchor.jpg



Wow..you can cut and paste?
And into Notepad?
 
Scott...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:17 pm
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"Hobb" <Hobb at (no spam) grail.com> wrote in message news:hbocp9$3ru$2 at (no spam) aioe.org...

Quote:
Wow..you can cut and paste?
And into Notepad?

And I don't molest children, "Carl".

Back in the dungeon again.
 
Grobb...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:46 pm
Guest
Scott wrote:
Quote:

And I don't molest children, "Carl".



You seem to have a fixation with molesting children, "Scott".

Methinks thou dost protest too much.
 
Scott...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:19 pm
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"Grobb" <Grobb at (no spam) grail.com> wrote in message news:hboh1g$7pk$1 at (no spam) aioe.org...

<kaplonk>

Keep 'em coming, creep.

Your Lord and Master
 
Invisible68...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:38 pm
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"Greg Mossman" <mossman at (no spam) qnet.com> wrote in message
news:2bd9b1a3-e252-43c4-956a-de99819a4ba4 at (no spam) e4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
I had to re-read this one. At first, I thought the guy who hit his
head and started swallowing water was sure to be the casualty, but
he's OK (so fie on all of you who think it necessary to keep reg in
mouth until aboard the boat). RIP buddy, however, who probably had a
heart attack. The article doesn't venture a guess as to cause of
death, but it does put in a plug for PADI:

"There is no record of Brown receiving either a Professional
Association of Diving Instructors (PADI) or National Association of
Underwater Instructors scuba certification, according to an online
records search using his name and date of birth. It is not illegal to
dive without certification, but dive businesses will not fill divers'
tanks without the certification.

"As part of gaining a scuba certification, divers are tested and
trained on such experiences as dropping a weight belt and surfacing
when a problem arises and when struggling to surface. PADI training
courses also outline how to deal with swift currents and advise always
having someone stay in the boat while diving."

http://keysnews.com/node/17718

That's how the article ends, implying that a PADI training course may
have saved the guy's life. How does PADI train divers to "deal with
swift currents" anyway? Is there a special PADI finning technique?


Well I remember being taught... in a PADI class the change your dive level
to help with the currents... but you do not want to be going up and down
during the whole dive.. of course it was the advance diving cert... and it
was also off the cost of Cozumel...

Invisible68
 
Andy Brooks...
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:40 pm
Guest
Greg Mossman wrote:
Quote:
I had to re-read this one. At first, I thought the guy who hit his
head and started swallowing water was sure to be the casualty, but
he's OK (so fie on all of you who think it necessary to keep reg in
mouth until aboard the boat). RIP buddy, however, who probably had a
heart attack. The article doesn't venture a guess as to cause of
death, but it does put in a plug for PADI:

"There is no record of Brown receiving either a Professional
Association of Diving Instructors (PADI) or National Association of
Underwater Instructors scuba certification, according to an online
records search using his name and date of birth. It is not illegal to
dive without certification, but dive businesses will not fill divers'
tanks without the certification.

"As part of gaining a scuba certification, divers are tested and
trained on such experiences as dropping a weight belt and surfacing
when a problem arises and when struggling to surface. PADI training
courses also outline how to deal with swift currents and advise always
having someone stay in the boat while diving."

I've never been keen on having someone stay in the boat while diving.

It's such a pain re-floating it afterwards.
 
 
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