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| Paul... |
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Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
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| Bill who putters... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:48 pm |
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In article <hbdeah010hk at (no spam) news5.newsguy.com>, "Paul" <oplholik at (no spam) gmail.com>
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Quote: Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
I'd hazard a guess that certain, determined, established, created,
decided and fixed play a part.
Bill who loves questions like this.
From Latin words below
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ratus, rata, ratum ADJ [XXXCX]
established, authoritative; fixed, certain;
vetustus, vetusta, vetustum ADJ [XXXCX]
ancient, old established; long-established;
effatus, effata, effatum ADJ [FXXDE]
pronounced, designated; determined; established; proclaimed;
ecfatus, ecfata, ecfatum ADJ [FXXDE]
pronounced, designated; determined; established; proclaimed;
aedificus, aedifica, aedificum ADJ [XXXDE]
built, erected, constructed, made; created; established; improved;
consto, constare, constiti, constatus V 1 1 INTRANS [XXXAO]
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certain/decided/consistent/sure/fixed/established/well-known/apparent/pla
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| David E. Ross... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:01 pm |
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On 10/17/2009 2:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Quote: Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It depends upon the plant. Annuals already in bloom might take a week.
Fruit trees might take an entire growing season.
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David E. Ross
Climate: California Mediterranean
Sunset Zone: 21 -- interior Santa Monica Mountains with some ocean
influence (USDA 10a, very close to Sunset Zone 19)
Gardening diary at <http://www.rossde.com/garden/diary> |
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| brooklyn1... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:51 pm |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:01:44 -0700, "David E. Ross"
<nobody at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
Quote: On 10/17/2009 2:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It depends upon the plant. Annuals already in bloom might take a week.
Fruit trees might take an entire growing season.
Also depends a lot on whether transplanted to a container or in the
ground... plants establish much more readily in the ground. And
"water well" doesn't mean to water heavily, it means to "water
properly"... most newly planted nursery stock does better by watering
sparingly and not every day (less is more). If they are to flourish
plant roots require air, do not drown... very important not to
tamp/compact soil. |
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| Gloria P... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:58 pm |
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Paul wrote:
Quote: Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance,
"water well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it
established? Thanks.
I would look for signs of new growth to determine if most plants
had become established. It does depend on the type of plant,
however.
gloria p |
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| Phisherman... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:59 pm |
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:52:17 -0700, "Paul" <oplholik at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It will depend on the plant and conditions. In general, it is a good
idea to water immedately after a transplant and then again the
following day. Some plants may rot if overwatered. |
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| Higgs Boson... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:08 pm |
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On Oct 17, 5:51 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:01:44 -0700, "David E. Ross"
nob... at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 10/17/2009 2:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It depends upon the plant. Annuals already in bloom might take a week..
Fruit trees might take an entire growing season.
Also depends a lot on whether transplanted to a container or in the
ground... plants establish much more readily in the ground. And
"water well" doesn't mean to water heavily, it means to "water
properly"... most newly planted nursery stock does better by watering
sparingly and not every day (less is more). If they are to flourish
plant roots require air, do not drown... very important not to
tamp/compact soil.
Yes, if you mean don't walk on it after transplanting. But it is
important to press down the soil lightly
around newly-transplanted plants to help the tiny feeder roots make
good contact with the soil around their new home.
Nota bene "LIGHTLY". |
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| David Hare-Scott... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 11:15 pm |
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Paul wrote:
Quote: Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance,
"water well until established". How long does it take a plant to
become established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it
established? Thanks.
It's established when it is visibly making significant new growth and shows
signs of having a well functioning root system, ie does not wilt when it
shouldn't. This could be days to months depending on the plant.
David |
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| gardengal... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:18 am |
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On Oct 18, 12:08 am, Higgs Boson <hypati... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 17, 5:51 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:01:44 -0700, "David E. Ross"
nob... at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 10/17/2009 2:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It depends upon the plant. Annuals already in bloom might take a week.
Fruit trees might take an entire growing season.
Also depends a lot on whether transplanted to a container or in the
ground... plants establish much more readily in the ground. And
"water well" doesn't mean to water heavily, it means to "water
properly"... most newly planted nursery stock does better by watering
sparingly and not every day (less is more). If they are to flourish
plant roots require air, do not drown... very important not to
tamp/compact soil.
Yes, if you mean don't walk on it after transplanting. But it is
important to press down the soil lightly
around newly-transplanted plants to help the tiny feeder roots make
good contact with the soil around their new home.
Nota bene "LIGHTLY".- Hide quoted text -
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I think most responses to this question are seriously underestimating
the amount of time involved. 'Establishment' with regards to plants
defines the period of time it takes the plant to develop and spread
out a proper root system so that the plant can support itself and
derive what it needs from the existing soil conditions - water and
nutrients. The larger the plant, the longer it takes to establish.
Annuals typically establish in a matter of weeks, perennials are
usually considered established after one FULL growing season in the
ground (if you plant in summer, that means the following summer) and
larger woody plants - vines, shrubs and small trees - are generally
considered established after 3 seasons. For larger trees, the rule of
thumb is one year of establishment for every inch of caliper. Climate
and soil conditions will influence the exact amount of time involved,
but these are typical guidelines followed by horticulturists and the
nursery industry. |
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| Bonsaisr... |
| Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:25 pm |
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On Oct 26, 11:18 am, gardengal <grdnga... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 18, 12:08 am, Higgs Boson <hypati... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 17, 5:51 pm, brooklyn1 <gravesen... at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:01:44 -0700, "David E. Ross"
nob... at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
On 10/17/2009 2:52 PM, Paul wrote:
Something I've been curious about when buying plants is for instance, "water
well until established". How long does it take a plant to become
established? If it hasn't withered after a couple weeks, is it established?
Thanks.
It depends upon the plant. Annuals already in bloom might take a week.
Fruit trees might take an entire growing season.
Also depends a lot on whether transplanted to a container or in the
ground... plants establish much more readily in the ground. And
"water well" doesn't mean to water heavily, it means to "water
properly"... most newly planted nursery stock does better by watering
sparingly and not every day (less is more). If they are to flourish
plant roots require air, do not drown... very important not to
tamp/compact soil.
Yes, if you mean don't walk on it after transplanting. But it is
important to press down the soil lightly
around newly-transplanted plants to help the tiny feeder roots make
good contact with the soil around their new home.
Nota bene "LIGHTLY".- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I think most responses to this question are seriously underestimating
the amount of time involved. 'Establishment' with regards to plants
defines the period of time it takes the plant to develop and spread
out a proper root system so that the plant can support itself and
derive what it needs from the existing soil conditions - water and
nutrients. The larger the plant, the longer it takes to establish.
Annuals typically establish in a matter of weeks, perennials are
usually considered established after one FULL growing season in the
ground (if you plant in summer, that means the following summer) and
larger woody plants - vines, shrubs and small trees - are generally
considered established after 3 seasons. For larger trees, the rule of
thumb is one year of establishment for every inch of caliper. Climate
and soil conditions will influence the exact amount of time involved,
but these are typical guidelines followed by horticulturists and the
nursery industry.
This sounds like the most valid answer. There are so many variables. I
have a large beautyberry that was professionally transplanted. They
did a poor job & the soil was not properly prepared. It's about three
years and the bush isn't established yet. We have very sandy soil & if
I don't water it every day, it wilts & doesn't produce berries. But
that is an extreme case. My Japanese maple became established very
quickly.
Iris |
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