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| Joe Granto... |
 Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:29 pm |
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My old Mares BC died, and I am in the market for a jacket-style BC. My
biggest criteria is comfort at the surface while I am waiting for the
boat. I prefer a BC that keeps me upright, maybe leaning back, without
having to expend effort. Other features such a integrated weight and
such are standard, but not real concerns. Lots of D-rings would be
nice.
I am tall and thin (6'2" 178lbs), causing me to use a Medium BC, in
case that matters. I wear a wetsuit, and carry around 12lbs of weight.
I am currently looking at the ScubaPro Classic Plus and Sherwood Avid.
1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
2. If I go with an integrated fill house and regulator, the Zeagle
Octo-Z was recommended. Do people like this unit, and would it work on
both the ScubaPro and Sherwood? I know the ScubaPro can use the AIR2,
but the Zeagle got a better recommend.
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| Greg Mossman... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:29 pm |
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On Oct 13, 11:29 am, Joe Granto <joe.gra... at (no spam) NoSpam.com> wrote:
Quote: My old Mares BC died, and I am in the market for a jacket-style BC. My
biggest criteria is comfort at the surface while I am waiting for the
boat. I prefer a BC that keeps me upright, maybe leaning back, without
having to expend effort. Other features such a integrated weight and
such are standard, but not real concerns. Lots of D-rings would be
nice.
I am tall and thin (6'2" 178lbs), causing me to use a Medium BC, in
case that matters. I wear a wetsuit, and carry around 12lbs of weight.
I am currently looking at the ScubaPro Classic Plus and Sherwood Avid.
1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
2. If I go with an integrated fill house and regulator, the Zeagle
Octo-Z was recommended. Do people like this unit, and would it work on
both the ScubaPro and Sherwood? I know the ScubaPro can use the AIR2,
but the Zeagle got a better recommend.
Have you tried a back-inflate BC? I'm just curious because you
mention a Zeagle product, but Zeagle is really known for making decent
back-inflate BCs. I use their smallest, the Stiletto, and I never
notice that I'm expending any effort on the surface when waiting for
the boat. To qualify that, I'm one of those take-the-mask-off-my-face
guys when I hit the surface, none of that keep the reg in my mouth
until I'm safely on the boat crap. Again, I've never noticed
expending any effort with my Zeagle on the surface and a lazy guy like
me usually would notice and bitch about that sort of thing. From my
experience, a majority of divers who have tried both seem to prefer
back-inflate setups over jacket-style.
The problem with integrated octopi is that, if the shit hits the fan,
you have to control your buoyancy with the same device you're using to
breathe from at the same time trying to calm an OOA buddy who's
breathing off your primary. It just adds another measure of
complication to an already hectic scenario. Sure, it might seem
possible when done in controlled conditions in a swimming pool, but
add panic and 100' to the equation and I promise you'll be wishing you
had stuck with the traditional octopus instead.
Of course an OOA emergency is very unlikely if you dive with careful
buddies so you might disagree about sacrificing the streamlined look
of an intergrated octopus for an eventuality that may never occur to
you, but if you take that thought to the extreme, why bother with an
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| Grumman-581... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:54 pm |
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Joe Granto <joe.granto at (no spam) NoSpam.com> wrote in
news:oug9d59f5eemk5jriiumaurn9rp4fk1bi3 at (no spam) 4ax.com:
Quote: My old Mares BC died, and I am in the market for a jacket-style BC.
Personally, I don't use them... I prefer either a backplate and wing or a
horsecollar BC... If you are wanting to be leaning back while on the
surface, it would be difficult to beat a horsecollar BC in that respect
since all the inflation is on the front... If you are weighted right, you
shouldn't need much buoyancy from the BC anyway...
http://www.divers-supply.com/Sea-Elite-Horse-Collar-P503C42.aspx
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| El Stroko Guapo... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:58 pm |
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Joe Granto wrote:
Quote: My old Mares BC died, and I am in the market for a jacket-style BC. My
biggest criteria is comfort at the surface while I am waiting for the
boat. I prefer a BC that keeps me upright, maybe leaning back, without
having to expend effort. Other features such a integrated weight and
such are standard, but not real concerns. Lots of D-rings would be
nice.
I am tall and thin (6'2" 178lbs), causing me to use a Medium BC, in
case that matters. I wear a wetsuit, and carry around 12lbs of weight.
I am currently looking at the ScubaPro Classic Plus and Sherwood Avid.
1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
2. If I go with an integrated fill house and regulator, the Zeagle
Octo-Z was recommended. Do people like this unit, and would it work on
both the ScubaPro and Sherwood? I know the ScubaPro can use the AIR2,
but the Zeagle got a better recommend.
Thanks!
The best jacket BC ever made was the Seatec Manta, and I happen to have
one for sale, like new, $150 including shipping to the lower 48.
It has the original metal cams, you will want to replace them with
plastic but that's only a few bucks.
Act now!
ESG |
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| Paul... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:24 pm |
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Joe Granto wrote:
Quote: My old Mares BC died, and I am in the market for a jacket-style BC. My
biggest criteria is comfort at the surface while I am waiting for the
boat. I prefer a BC that keeps me upright, maybe leaning back, without
having to expend effort. Other features such a integrated weight and
such are standard, but not real concerns. Lots of D-rings would be
nice.
I am tall and thin (6'2" 178lbs), causing me to use a Medium BC, in
case that matters. I wear a wetsuit, and carry around 12lbs of weight.
I am currently looking at the ScubaPro Classic Plus and Sherwood Avid.
1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
2. If I go with an integrated fill house and regulator, the Zeagle
Octo-Z was recommended. Do people like this unit, and would it work on
both the ScubaPro and Sherwood? I know the ScubaPro can use the AIR2,
but the Zeagle got a better recommend.
Thanks!
I'd go with the others on 'don't integrate your fill and reg'.. for one
reason off the top of my head - do you want to lose your bcd for a few
days everytime you get the reg bit serviced?
Other reasons - if your inflate button sticks - you pull off the hose to
maintain correct bouyancy and then lose the use of it as a regulator?
Would you buy a set of regs that had a lift bag built in .. no.
I'm a fan of Seac Sub 2000/3000 but dunno if available that side of the
pond. |
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| bullshark... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:11 am |
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On Oct 13, 2:29 pm, Joe Granto <joe.gra... at (no spam) NoSpam.com> wrote:
Quote: 1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
The scuba pro of course.
But take a look at the SP Knighthawk.
Quote: 2. If I go with an integrated fill house and regulator, the Zeagle
Octo-Z was recommended. Do people like this unit, and would it work on
both the ScubaPro and Sherwood? I know the ScubaPro can use the AIR2,
but the Zeagle got a better recommend.
I presume you are taling a about an alternate source integrated with
Low pressure inflator.
Whoever recommended the Zeagle Alternate Air source was trying to sell
it to you, a noob with no clue, or a bald-faced liar. It's crap. Buy
two: Shit on one. Cover it up with the other.
The AirII is also crap. High maintenance, low quality. I've personally
seen two units totally, irrevocably go free-flow out of the box in the
last month and one more after two dives and a month in the locker.
Atomic SS1 is what you want. Best in class by far. I've personally
owned AirII generations 1 and 2 as well as Tusa Air Duo (scuba pro
license) The tusa was the best of that lot but not even close to the
Atomic product. All told, I've got around 2000 dives logged using
these (4000 counting the ms) with nearly half that on the Atomics. The
atomics have never failed, never given a problem and have a very nice
disconnect from the BC LP hose that allows you to remove it easily and
store or clean it separately.
buy it from LP, not your diveshop.
Simplicity. Fewer hoses. Fewer connections and parts. Equip yourself
as you prefer.
safe diving,
bullshark
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| -hh... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:20 am |
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On Oct 15, 3:11 pm, bullshark <bullsh... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 13, 2:29 pm, Joe Granto <joe.gra... at (no spam) NoSpam.com> wrote:
1. Does anyone in the group know which may be a better choice?
The scuba pro of course.
But take a look at the SP Knighthawk.
I currently have the Knighthawk. For the OP's interest in surface
floats, it doesn't come close to doing the job when I'm holding my UW
camera, despite putting 100% of my weighting behind me ... I don't
even use the waist level ditchable Weight Integrated pockets, but went
back to a traditional weightbelt (so as to have some ditchable)
If I knew right now of a better Jacket BCD to buy for myself and had
someone offer me 50% of MSRP for my SP Knighthawk, I'd pay for
overnight FedEX in a heartbeat.
-hh |
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