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| dizzy... |
 Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:43 pm |
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Michelle wrote:
Quote: I did not dismiss non-marathoners as lazy. I dismissed Dizzy as lazy.
You think that makes you less of a lying asshole?
Like you know me? Like I'm really "lazy"? Idiot. |
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| dizzy... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:51 pm |
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Melinda Shore wrote:
Quote: Michelle <michelle at (no spam) michelle.org> wrote:
I'm not sneering at them; I'm sneering only at Dizzy.
That may have been your intent, but that's not what you
did. You've made it clear that you don't like people
sneering at your running choices - have a thought for that.
I'm absolutely unclear on how dismissing non-marathoners as
lazy is responsive to "marathon distance is silly," anyway.
Exactly. I exercise regularly, and in better shape than 99% my age,
but, because I think doing marathon milage is "silly", I'm a "lazy
quitter", according to Michael. |
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| dizzy... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:55 pm |
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Michelle wrote:
Quote: Almost anyone can do ten or even a HM;
Not without a lot of dedication and hard work.
Quote: it takes a lot of dedication and
hard work to do a marathon (or longer).
Same to do a solid 10k, Michael. |
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| Michelle... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:56 pm |
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In article <1bphe5pf7mg6imdqsp1lidqq7lslau3nb4 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote: because I think doing marathon milage is "silly", I'm a "lazy
quitter", according to Michael.
1. Learn how to quote properly; I never wrote "quitter".
2. Learn how to spell my name properly; it's "Michelle", not "Michael".
It appears that you're too lazy to bother to do either.
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| Michelle... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:05 pm |
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In article <f7phe5prv6et54tllsahpq54ssd9440n6a at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote: I did not dismiss non-marathoners as lazy. I dismissed Dizzy as lazy.
You think that makes you less of a lying asshole?
It makes me less of one than you are.
Quote: Like you know me? Like I'm really "lazy"? Idiot.
I know you're too lazy and lack the dedication to train for and run a
marathon. I know that you're enough of an asshole to disparage those of us
who do. And I know that you are a coward who hides behind an alias and a
fake email address, so as not to be accountable for your own words.
I know that you are a despicable human being.
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| Michelle... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:07 pm |
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In article <kpphe5dcr2ibvmalrolju3d3n42cpoiki8 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Almost anyone can do ten or even a HM;
Not without a lot of dedication and hard work.
it takes a lot of dedication and
hard work to do a marathon (or longer).
Same to do a solid 10k, Michael.
Not nearly as much, fuckwit.
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| pithydoug... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:53 am |
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On Oct 28, 9:05 pm, Michelle <miche... at (no spam) michelle.org> wrote:
Quote: In article <f7phe5prv6et54tllsahpq54ssd9440... at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
Quote: I know that you are a despicable human being.
Nah, save that for Rove, Rush, Beck, Bundy and Dahmer , Ditzy is just
and opinionated dork, aka a dweeb troll.. ;)
-D |
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| Michelle... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:12 am |
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In article
<d43ad921-5a0d-4e37-ad0a-22e6371a9448 at (no spam) v36g2000yqv.googlegroups.com>,
pithydoug <dfreese at (no spam) hvc.rr.com> wrote:
Quote: I know that you are a despicable human being.
Nah, save that for Rove, Rush, Beck, Bundy and Dahmer , Ditzy is just
and opinionated dork, aka a dweeb troll.. 
There are degrees of despicable. But why are you insulting Bundy and
Dahmer like that?
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| Edward Edmonds... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:11 pm |
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On 10/15/2009 3:57 PM, I2Run wrote:
Quote: "PreciousKittyKat"<preciouskittykat at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f8ad9b7d-8a58-48c4-97f4-d6c675d9d597 at (no spam) l13g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
|> Most runners keep improving quite a bit the 2nd year, the 3rd year,
|> the 4th year etc! At least most of the runners that I have ever
|> known.
I hope there is room for improvement beyond this first year! I'd be
disappointed to discover that I've already maxed out my improvement in
one short year! Good to know that I have a few years of potential
yet! 
Cindy
Old John is right, I am still improving for the last 3&1/2 years and
counting.
I hear from so many old timers that you improve for 7 to 10 years,
before leveling off irrespective of the age when you start.
I think 7 to 10+ years is correct, if you look at the bio's of many
professional runner's a lot of them have continued to improve since they
started running some of them way over 10 years in the longer distances.
Geb comes to mind. You might only be able to improve so much over a
string of years for 5k's and 10k's running at their respective efforts
but that's mainly because those type of races use energy systems that
seem to decline with age and/or as you age your recovery times increase
therefore making it hard to maintain those systems.
But theoretically there is no cap on developing your aerobic systems.
At the same time aerobic fitness while extremely important is not
everything, somebody that has a lower developed aerobic system can many
times run the same times as an uneffiecient runner with a highly
developed aerobic system. Pre comes to mind. I believe his V02 was 84
and he was very inefficient. So improving your times can also mean
improving your economy.
At the same time your only going to improve for as long as your
stimulating the particular energy system you're trying to develop. In
later years of development it is true that it gets harder and harder to
improve times, but that's not because there is not room for improvement,
but more so because it gets harder and harder to stimulate the your
systems. So you have to work exponentially harder just to squeeze out
extra seconds or 10ths of a second in some cases in later years of
development.
Fartleks (alternating easier paced efforts with harder paces efforts)
and 10 second alactic sprints (not a full out sprint at first but close
to top speed and no more then 10 seconds) sprinkled in your medium to
harder effort aerobic runs are a good place to start. Doing those two
things will do to things for you, a) in order to run faster you have to
practice at it, a lot of people think that running faster is just a
matter of increasing your fitness, but really running fast comfortably
for longer periods of time requires a degree of coordination that is not
always natural feeling at first and is not always easy to get used to,
b) running faster to some degree is also going to teach you to move more
economical.
The nice thing about Fartleks and sprinkling in short sprints is that it
is unregimented/unstructured, so you can do this as often as you feel
you can and you don't have to over do it to get results either. They
also make your runs a little more exciting and satisfying after your
finished. Then when you get used to that if you want to you can add in
more structered training to improve the comfort of going fast such as
cruise intervals, intervals or tempo runs if you decide to get really
serious about it.
In general though as you get fitter some time is going to come off but
eventually you'll need to practice going faster to get faster.
Eddie |
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