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dizzy...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:38 pm
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rick++ wrote:

Quote:
dizzy <di... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Many more are not. It's a silly, arbitrary distance, for some reason
glorified due to some myth (true or not is irrelevant).

Actually its a significant distance where at least 80% of people
deplete their blood sugar and feel awful by mile 18-22.

One of the reasons why I think it's "silly".
 
dizzy...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 4:43 pm
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Michelle wrote:

Quote:
Many more are not. It's a silly, arbitrary distance, for some reason
glorified due to some myth (true or not is irrelevant).

All distances are arbitrary. Why, for example, 400 meters instead of 500?

But please tell us why it is silly.

Many reasons. One is that, for no apparent reason, it's just THE
goal, THE "thing to do" for so many.

Read any of those inspirational stories in runner's world. They all
say something like "and now she's doing marathons". Gee, no one gets
off the couch and gets really fit, but stops at the "measly" 10?
 
Michelle...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:28 pm
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In article <23fsd5dqfa56cgo4oj831bg36oc349q7m2 at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Many more are not. It's a silly, arbitrary distance, for some reason
glorified due to some myth (true or not is irrelevant).

All distances are arbitrary. Why, for example, 400 meters instead of
500?

But please tell us why it is silly.

Many reasons. One is that, for no apparent reason, it's just THE goal,
THE "thing to do" for so many.

Even if it were true that there is no apparent reason, why is it a silly
distance?

Quote:
Read any of those inspirational stories in runner's world. They all say
something like "and now she's doing marathons". Gee, no one gets off
the couch and gets really fit, but stops at the "measly" 10?

Almost anyone can do ten or even a HM; it takes a lot of dedication and
hard work to do a marathon (or longer).

--
26.2 Because I can
 
Michelle...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:29 pm
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In article <guesd557icvfsv7pq0e5id38aseqs7i8la at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Many more are not. It's a silly, arbitrary distance, for some reason
glorified due to some myth (true or not is irrelevant).

Actually its a significant distance where at least 80% of people
deplete their blood sugar and feel awful by mile 18-22.

One of the reasons why I think it's "silly".

I guess that to someone who gives up easily, anything requiring dedication
and hard work is silly.

--
26.2 Because I can
 
Michelle...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 5:29 pm
Guest
In article <4sesd5dr56lj2t9ra6jbud1hma0dm24v2n at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Michelle wrote:

I commend you on your restraint.

Tell Dougie that his new nym isn't getting past my filters.

Frankly, I don't give a shit.

--
26.2 Because I can
 
dizzy...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:20 pm
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Michelle wrote:

Quote:
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Michelle wrote:

I commend you on your restraint.

Tell Dougie that his new nym isn't getting past my filters.

Frankly, I don't give a shit.

Testosterone levels surging?
 
dizzy...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:26 pm
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Michelle wrote:

Quote:
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Many more are not. It's a silly, arbitrary distance, for some reason
glorified due to some myth (true or not is irrelevant).

Actually its a significant distance where at least 80% of people
deplete their blood sugar and feel awful by mile 18-22.

One of the reasons why I think it's "silly".

I guess that to someone who gives up easily, anything requiring dedication
and hard work is silly.

I guess that to someone who is too stupid to differentiate "silly"
from "sensible", being sensible means giving up easily.
 
Michelle...
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:56 pm
Guest
In article <lursd5tpofpc6e1d39p7pnre8g1dgfoivh at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Michelle wrote:

I commend you on your restraint.

Tell Dougie that his new nym isn't getting past my filters.

Frankly, I don't give a shit.

Testosterone levels surging?

I dunno; I think you can be tested for that.

--
26.2 Because I can
 
John Hurley...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:50 am
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On Oct 15, 10:44 am, Charlie Pendejo <charlie.pend... at (no spam) gmail.com>
wrote:

snip

Quote:
Cindy...really just thinks that the Marathon...would be PAINFUL...and
am not sure there would be much ENJOYMENT in it~ at least at this
point in my running!

I'm in my seventh year, have trained pretty seriously (80 to 100 miles
per week) at times, enjoy racing 5, 10, 15k and half marathons - and I
agree, my marathon experiences have been painful and less enjoyable.
Nonetheless, because I'm an idiot, and live right on the NYC marathon
course, and feel irritated by not having run one even halfway decently
yet, I'll give it another go in 2010.

Charlie that last paragraph sounds a whole lot like me ... before I
swore off marathoning!

In the old days when there were a bunch of people that one knew
running in the 2:40's and ( below at times ) ... it was hard to feel
very good even about going under 3. Being 15 minutes behind a
sometimes training partner is a long way back.

Good luck at NYC!
 
pithydoug...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:01 am
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On Oct 20, 6:37 pm, dizzy <di... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Michelle wrote:
I commend you on your restraint.

Tell Dougie that his new nym isn't getting past my filters.

I'm really concerned over this. Kindly note the Google groups lets all
of your musings through loud and clear.


Isn't it about time to go inside on your treadmill? The temps must
hovering near the chilly range and we know snookims doesn't like to be
uncomfortable. Meow!
 
Charlie Pendejo...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 3:19 am
Guest
JBH:
Quote:
In the old days when there were a bunch of people that one knew
running in the 2:40's and ( below at times ) ... it was hard to feel
very good even about going under 3.  Being 15 minutes behind a
sometimes training partner is a long way back.

I know what you mean, though at least finishing under 3 would feel
better than running well over it. The best I've managed so far is
3:11:xx, a disappointment three weeks after a 1:23:xx half marathon.

I've been enjoying a series of weekly threads on another forum this
fall, and if I post there next year in the months leading up to the
marathon, it'll be as a back-of--packer in that crowd:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3251152
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=3262403
 
Melinda Shore...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:06 am
Guest
In article <michelle-C02E00.16291620102009 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle <michelle at (no spam) michelle.org> wrote:
Quote:
I guess that to someone who gives up easily, anything requiring dedication
and hard work is silly.

I don't understand why you're sneering at people who choose
not to marathon.
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Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore at (no spam) panix.com

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
 
Michelle...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:38 am
Guest
In article <hbn4i1$g4l$1 at (no spam) panix2.panix.com>,
shore at (no spam) panix.com (Melinda Shore) wrote:

Quote:
I guess that to someone who gives up easily, anything requiring
dedication and hard work is silly.

I don't understand why you're sneering at people who choose not to
marathon.

I'm not sneering at them; I'm sneering only at Dizzy. I know a woman who
puts in 70+ mile weeks, but who races only 10K and 5K. She wants to run
the fastest she can at those distances, and works hard and is very
dedicated. But she doesn't think that a marathon is a silly distance.

--
26.2 Because I can
 
Melinda Shore...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:41 pm
Guest
In article <michelle-86D5DD.10382121102009 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle <michelle at (no spam) michelle.org> wrote:
Quote:
I'm not sneering at them; I'm sneering only at Dizzy.

That may have been your intent, but that's not what you
did. You've made it clear that you don't like people
sneering at your running choices - have a thought for that.
I'm absolutely unclear on how dismissing non-marathoners as
lazy is responsive to "marathon distance is silly," anyway.
--
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - shore at (no spam) panix.com

Prouder than ever to be a member of the reality-based community
 
Michelle...
Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:59 pm
Guest
In article <hbnrks$ds5$1 at (no spam) panix2.panix.com>,
shore at (no spam) panix.com (Melinda Shore) wrote:

Quote:
I'm not sneering at them; I'm sneering only at Dizzy.

That may have been your intent, but that's not what you
did.

That's your perception.

Quote:
You've made it clear that you don't like people
sneering at your running choices - have a thought for that.
I'm absolutely unclear on how dismissing non-marathoners as
lazy is responsive to "marathon distance is silly," anyway.

I did not dismiss non-marathoners as lazy. I dismissed Dizzy as lazy.
Read it in context; nowhere did I say or imply that runners who choose not
to run marathons are silly, nor did I say or imply that they give up easily.

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26.2 Because I can
 
 
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