Michael Merrigan:



Maybe with the excellent political relationship now between Dublin and
London that the British authorities would consider dropping the
heraldic claim to sovereignty over Ireland as represented in the
current British Royal Arms. It certainly would be nice neighbourly
gesture - don't you think?

I suppose your suggestion makes sense. It took 250 years after we lost
Calais for George III to renounce his claims to the French throne and
drop the fleurs-de-lys. Are you suggesting the harp should be replaced
by the Red Hand of Ulster?

Richard L

On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:





On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"

gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...

I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!

I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it?  The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.

The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
we need to know.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I beg to differ.  If you will read the article supplied by Guy:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)

You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it.  This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college.  I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose.  I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...?  what exactly?

Guesses? Information?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
almost can't believe my eyes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks.  I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...

I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle.  As a logo however it seems very
contemporary.  That's why I threw out the question to COA.  Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.

It ain't heraldry really is it?  I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?

Heraldic collapse...  This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage.  I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this.  In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.

As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
untenable.  So, you may be on to something Graham.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair.
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
comes to that.

On Oct 9, 8:03 am, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:





On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"

gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...

I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!

I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it?  The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.

The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
we need to know.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I beg to differ.  If you will read the article supplied by Guy:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)

You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it.  This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college.  I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose.  I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...?  what exactly?

Guesses? Information?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
almost can't believe my eyes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks.  I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...

I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle.  As a logo however it seems very
contemporary.  That's why I threw out the question to COA.  Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.

It ain't heraldry really is it?  I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?

Heraldic collapse...  This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage.  I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this.  In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.

As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
untenable.  So, you may be on to something Graham.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair.
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
comes to that.

Graham,
          On the theme of "My country is disintegrating before my very
eyes", it appears that the subject of this review might be appropriate
for your book list:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1012/1224256435530.html
- the book being "The Country Formerly Known as Great Britain". Looks
like a great read!
Regards,
  The Chief- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On 12 Oct, 01:10, The Chief <The_Chieft... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:



On Oct 9, 8:03 am, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"

gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...

I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!

I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it?  The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.

The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
we need to know.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I beg to differ.  If you will read the article supplied by Guy:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)

You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it.  This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college.  I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose.  I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...?  what exactly?

Guesses? Information?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
almost can't believe my eyes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks.  I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...

I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle.  As a logo however it seems very
contemporary.  That's why I threw out the question to COA.  Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.

It ain't heraldry really is it?  I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?

Heraldic collapse...  This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage.  I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this.  In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.

As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
untenable.  So, you may be on to something Graham.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair.
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
comes to that.

Graham,
          On the theme of "My country is disintegrating before my very
eyes", it appears that the subject of this review might be appropriate
for your book list:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1012/1224256435530.html
- the book being "The Country Formerly Known as Great Britain". Looks
like a great read!
Regards,
  The Chief- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hilarious. I must put away my 'Tom & Jerry' cartoon videos. By the
way, would anyone like to comment on Burnley's new logo?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6283542/Town-...

On Oct 12, 10:39 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:





On 12 Oct, 01:10, The Chief <The_Chieft... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:

On Oct 9, 8:03 am, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"

gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...

I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!

I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it?  The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.

The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it.. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
we need to know.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I beg to differ.  If you will read the article supplied by Guy:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)

You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it.  This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college.  I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose.  I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...?  what exactly?

Guesses? Information?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
almost can't believe my eyes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks.  I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...

I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle.  As a logo however it seems very
contemporary.  That's why I threw out the question to COA.  Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.

It ain't heraldry really is it?  I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?

Heraldic collapse...  This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage.  I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this.  In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.

As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
untenable.  So, you may be on to something Graham.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair..
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
comes to that.

Graham,
          On the theme of "My country is disintegrating before my very
eyes", it appears that the subject of this review might be appropriate
for your book list:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1012/1224256435530.html
- the book being "The Country Formerly Known as Great Britain". Looks
like a great read!
Regards,
  The Chief- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hilarious. I must put away my 'Tom & Jerry' cartoon videos. By the
way, would anyone like to comment on Burnley's new logo?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6283542/Town-...

That's nothing - The Lord Mayor of Melbourne (Oz) commissioned a firm
of consultants to design a new logo for the City. The initial
consultancy cost $90,000 whilst the actual logo - a big "M" cost
$175,000 to come up with. I have since decided to go into business
designing logos - there seems to be a lot of money in it.

Regards
Donald Binks- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

On 12 Oct, 13:35, Donald4564 <dbi... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:





On Oct 12, 10:39 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 12 Oct, 01:10, The Chief <The_Chieft... at (no spam) att.net> wrote:

On Oct 9, 8:03 am, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"

gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...

I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!

I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it?  The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.

The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
we need to know.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I beg to differ.  If you will read the article supplied by Guy:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)

You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it.  This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college.  I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose.  I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...?  what exactly?

Guesses? Information?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
almost can't believe my eyes.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Thanks.  I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...

I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle.  As a logo however it seems very
contemporary.  That's why I threw out the question to COA.  Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.

It ain't heraldry really is it?  I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?

Heraldic collapse...  This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage.  I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this.  In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.

As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
untenable.  So, you may be on to something Graham.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair.
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
comes to that.

Graham,
          On the theme of "My country is disintegrating before my very
eyes", it appears that the subject of this review might be appropriate
for your book list:http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/opinion/2009/1012/1224256435530.html
- the book being "The Country Formerly Known as Great Britain". Looks
like a great read!
Regards,
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Hilarious. I must put away my 'Tom & Jerry' cartoon videos. By the
way, would anyone like to comment on Burnley's new logo?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/6283542/Town-....

That's nothing - The Lord Mayor of Melbourne (Oz) commissioned a firm
of consultants to design a new logo for the City. The initial
consultancy cost $90,000 whilst the actual logo - a big "M" cost
$175,000 to come up with. I have since decided to go into business
designing logos - there seems to be a lot of money in it.

Regards
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Sounds like a good idea. No-one seems to be immune from this folly. I
remember when BP got rid of its nice old green and gold shield and
replaced it with a sort of green and yellow weed. Horrible. Also, BOAC
used to have a nice logo before they became BA. I can't see the
purpose of all this re-invention; after all, the pyramids were good
enough for the Egyptians for thousands of years. Not that I'm a stick-
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John Major once said that when he saw Sir Richard Body approaching he
could hear the sound of flapping white coats. He's obviously never met
Graham Milne....

Richard L

On 12 Oct, 19:02, Turenne <rick.lich... at (no spam) virgin.net> wrote:

John Major once said that when he saw Sir Richard Body approaching he
could hear the sound of flapping white coats. He's obviously never met
Graham Milne....

Richard L

Written by Richard L in his straight-jacket (he typed his message with
his nose) in a padded cell inside a building surrounded by razor wire,
dog patrols, minefields and a moat. Not that he's completely loony, of
course.

Big article about the new court in today's WSJ. Gist of it is that
after a 200+ year delay the Brits have finally established a (weaker)
version of the US Supreme Court.
 Seehttp://online.wsj.com/article/SB125573382497890937.html?mod=googlenew...

Regards,
  The Chief