On 9 Oct, 00:44, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On 8 Oct, 16:20, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 8 Oct, 21:30, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:25 pm, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
On 7 Oct, 21:15, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
On Oct 7, 11:17 am, "gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk"
gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Would anyone like to comment on the new emblem/logo (I hesitate to
call it a seal) of the Supreme Court? See the Daily Telegraph article
at:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/62667...
I note that 'it was the Law Lords wishes not to have the royal crest'.
Can officials just decide not to use the royal arms? Who do they think
they are? Perhaps they were so annoyed at being thrown out of their
club (House of Lords) that they decided to throw their toys out of the
pram? Really, one has to watch these people!
I think that your letter of complaint would go to The College of Arms
wouldn't it? The court, in your view might be crazy, but the college
apparently doesn't think that's a problem.
The logo is certainly not anything heraldic, so I would be very
surprised if the College of Arms had anything to do with it. A device
is only an official heraldic device if it is the subject of a grant.
But, come to think about it, a meaningless, unhistorical, wishy-washy
'modern logo' is most appropriate. Leave it where it is. It says all
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I beg to differ. If you will read the article supplied by Guy:
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/4324120/Irelands-Genealogical-Gazette-(Fe...)
You will learn that it is ineed an "heraldic badge" and that the COA
has addressed it. This does not of course discount your opinion it,
it just opens the question of "why such a design" to the college. I'm
a little curious about the (roses) that are featured: at least one of
them is a rose. I would presume that GU and AR represents Ireland and
the AZ and AR...? what exactly?
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Apologies. It is official. That makes it that much worse. The comment
in Ireland's Genealogical Gazette about 'logoism' exactly hits the
spot. This all results from the weasel attitudes of people who are
ashamed of their own history. The trouble is that when a nation
abandons its past it has no future. So this is not an issue about some
little emblem, it is about the abandonment of a nation's past - and
it's future. That this should be led by senior figures in the
judiciary beggars belief - but we are witnessing a process of national
disintegration that is unparalled in history. No other nation in
history has exhibited this sort of death wish, voluntary euthenasia,
but it has become the norm amongst Western nations. It is the most
extraordinary thing to have happened in the history of the world. I
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Thanks. I see your point: I hesitate to say however that I think you
may be taking it slightly - too seriously...
I was a bit taken aback by the liberal use of a floral design and as a
badge it seems unpracticle. As a logo however it seems very
contemporary. That's why I threw out the question to COA. Perhaps
someone with a tie might be able to comment.
It ain't heraldry really is it? I mean, how would one emblazon it?
and again, aside from the thistle, what else is gong on there?
Heraldic collapse... This may be one area that Scotland really has
the advantage. I would really like to see the heraldic authorities
take a very hard line conservative stance on all this. In my view,
this will help to keep heraldry from drifting too far astray as time
goes on.
As far as collapse is concerned however, Jared Diamond theorizes that
it is the result of a serise of declines that leaves an infrastructure
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Seriously? My country is disintegrating before my very eyes, so of
course I take it seriously. After 12 years of the 'Labour project' (at
the centre of which was an attempt to undermine the social cohesion of
this country in terms of race, religion, morality and a sense of
shared history and culture) the damage done to this country morally,
socially and financially is incalculable and possibly beyond repair.
We have lived through the most dangerous and destructive government in
our history. Vast swathes of the 'establishment' are infected with a
'liberal elitism' (which is actually a form of tyranny) that delights
in this process and wishes to sweep away all traces of our past. And
believe me, they may start with the little things, like replacing the
royal arms with a logo, but be in no doubt that their actual and
eventual target is the monarchy itself and all it stands for. We must
fight them on the beaches.... and on the (non) heraldic carpet if it
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