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| 1hogrider... |
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| El Stroko Guapo... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:21 pm |
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1hogrider wrote:
Quote: http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10002.html
Thought I might pass this along to folks on the group.
Andy
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
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| Al Wells... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:11 pm |
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In article <krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com>,
omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net says...
Quote: When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
My OW instructor and owner of the first dive shop I used loved to tell
people to go buy a bowling ball. you can get a nice'un for $50. |
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| Douglas W. \"Popeye\" Frederick... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:51 pm |
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"El Stroko Guapo" <omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
Quote: 1hogrider wrote:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10002.html
Thought I might pass this along to folks on the group.
Andy
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other than
scuba!
esg
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| Dillon Pyron... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:07 pm |
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[Default] Thus spake El Stroko Guapo <omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net>:
Quote: 1hogrider wrote:
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml10/10002.html
Thought I might pass this along to folks on the group.
Andy
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
esg
Had a PT come in last semester who had a leak in his dump valve that
almost drowned everyone in the room. One of the techs said "damn,
makes me wish Sadam had used some chemical weapons. Although it
wouldn't have prepped me for this."
Oh, different dump valve. Never mind.
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- dillon I am not invalid
Patrick Swayze, now there was talent |
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| Greg Mossman... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:24 pm |
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On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, JRE <noth... at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
Quote: Al Wells wrote:
In article <krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdn... at (no spam) earthlink.com>,
omg... at (no spam) earthlink.net says...
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
My OW instructor and owner of the first dive shop I used loved to tell
people to go buy a bowling ball. you can get a nice'un for $50.
I'm fond of the saying from auto racing: "Other sports beckon."
All I can figure is if those DIR types got their death rate down to
0.000 that they obviously needed some excitement in their lives. Who
wants to do anything when it's perfectly safe? Adding failure points
= adding excitement, and in something as boring as cave diving, with
nothing to look at but more stalagmites and stalactites, they need all
the excitement they can get! |
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| JRE... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:03 pm |
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Al Wells wrote:
Quote: In article <krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com>,
omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net says...
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
My OW instructor and owner of the first dive shop I used loved to tell
people to go buy a bowling ball. you can get a nice'un for $50.
I'm fond of the saying from auto racing: "Other sports beckon."
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| El Stroko Guapo... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:35 am |
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Greg Mossman wrote:
Quote: On Oct 7, 6:03 pm, JRE <noth... at (no spam) nowhere.invalid> wrote:
Al Wells wrote:
In article <krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdn... at (no spam) earthlink.com>,
omg... at (no spam) earthlink.net says...
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
My OW instructor and owner of the first dive shop I used loved to tell
people to go buy a bowling ball. you can get a nice'un for $50.
I'm fond of the saying from auto racing: "Other sports beckon."
All I can figure is if those DIR types got their death rate down to
0.000 that they obviously needed some excitement in their lives. Who
wants to do anything when it's perfectly safe? Adding failure points
= adding excitement, and in something as boring as cave diving, with
nothing to look at but more stalagmites and stalactites, they need all
the excitement they can get!
Ya know, bowling and auto racing do have similarities. In a race car,
running 10/10s, you commit to a line and that's the arc you will follow
through the corner - once you commit, it's all over but the sweating and
you have already fixed your speed at the end of the following straight.
Once you release that bowling ball, it's all over, the pin fall is
determined, there's nothing you can do to change your fate.
But diving is different. You constantly have options and if something
starts to go wrong, you only have to choose correct alternatives to get
back on line.
If a dump valve leaks, that doesn't add excitement, it doesn't make life
more dangerous, it's just a fucking annoyance and there are correct
alternatives to deal with it. The consequences are nothing compared to a
poorly thrown bowling ball or an early apex.
That's why dive training should focus less on "the rules" and more on
problem solving.
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| Grumman-581... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:11 am |
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El Stroko Guapo <omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in
news:krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com:
Quote: When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
Well, technically, just getting into the water is a drowning hazard...
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| Dillon Pyron... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:27 pm |
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[Default] Thus spake "Grumman-581" <grumman581-rec-scuba at (no spam) spambob.net>:
Quote: El Stroko Guapo <omgray at (no spam) earthlink.net> wrote in
news:krKdncvunoBWF1bXnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com:
When a leak in a dump valve - or even outright total failure - becomes a
"drowning hazard", it's time for the user to take up something other
than scuba!
Well, technically, just getting into the water is a drowning hazard...
Although there's always the hazard of extreme hypotension, climbing
into a hot tub while rather intoxicated is a drownin hazard.
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- dillon I am not invalid
Patrick Swayze, now there was talent |
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