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| mollie38... |
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Could someone please give me a little bit of advice . We have just
taken out 7 golden Leylandi trees which had gone all brown and must
admit did look a bit of a mess so hubby decided to cut them down .
They are planted in our rockery and was wondering before I am able to
plant anything will I have to treat the soil, as lately nothing seems
to grow there as the ground is very dry even though it was watered on
a daily basis in the summer.
Many thanks
Mollie
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| Ewa Szulc... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:21 am |
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this sounds like it doesn't keep mositure and possibly it is lacking
organic matter.
If I were in your shoes, I would add compost or natural fertiliser -
this would give the plants
better conditions to grow.
Before you do anything else, answer for yourself these questions: what
kind of soil do u have there?
what ph? what would u like to plant there. |
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| lannerman... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:01 pm |
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mollie38;866228 Wrote:
Quote: Could someone please give me a little bit of advice . We have just
taken out 7 golden Leylandi trees which had gone all brown and must
admit did look a bit of a mess so hubby decided to cut them down .
They are planted in our rockery and was wondering before I am able to
plant anything will I have to treat the soil, as lately nothing seems
to grow there as the ground is very dry even though it was watered on
a daily basis in the summer.
Many thanks
Mollie
Hi mollie, You don't say how big the Leylandii trees were? but assuming
that they were a reasonable size, this would account for the arid
conditions around them as not only do they take up alot of water in
their own right, they also 'sheild' the soil fom natural rain. You say
you 'took them out' but also that you 'cut them down', if its the
former then just the addition of some organic matter and base
fertilizer when replanting will suffice. If the latter is true and you
just cut them down then you will need to remove the stumps and as many
of the roots as possible before replanting.
Regards Lannerman.
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| mollie38... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:59 am |
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lannerman;866304 Wrote:
Quote: Hi mollie, You don't say how big the Leylandii trees were? but assuming
that they were a reasonable size, this would account for the arid
conditions around them as not only do they take up alot of water in
their own right, they also 'sheild' the soil fom natural rain. You say
you 'took them out' but also that you 'cut them down', if its the
former then just the addition of some organic matter and base
fertilizer when replanting will suffice. If the latter is true and you
just cut them down then you will need to remove the stumps and as many
of the roots as possible before replanting.
Regards Lannerman.
Many thanks for your speedy response The trees were enormous we had 7
in total, we have taken them down to the soil level trying to get the
roots out though is a nightmare have been on a few sites which say
drill holes in the stumps of the trees and put various chemicals down.
what I was going to ask if its impossible to take all the stumps out of
the ground will that still make the ground dry and will I be able to
plant there all I want is some low maintenence plants and shrubs as
we are now both in our sixties we just want something that is easy to
manage.
Regards
Mollie
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| Higgs Boson... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:47 pm |
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On Oct 5, 2:59 am, mollie38 <mollie38.53fa... at (no spam) gardenbanter.co.uk>
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Quote: lannerman;866304 Wrote:
Hi mollie, You don't say how big the Leylandii trees were? but assuming
that they were a reasonable size, this would account for the arid
conditions around them as not only do they take up alot of water in
their own right, they also 'sheild' the soil fom natural rain. You say
you 'took them out' but also that you 'cut them down', if its the
former then just the addition of some organic matter and base
fertilizer when replanting will suffice. If the latter is true and you
just cut them down then you will need to remove the stumps and as many
of the roots as possible before replanting.
Regards Lannerman.
Many thanks for your speedy response The trees were enormous we had 7
in total, we have taken them down to the soil level trying to get the
roots out though is a nightmare have been on a few sites which say
drill holes in the stumps of the trees and put various chemicals down.
what I was going to ask if its impossible to take all the stumps out of
the ground will that still make the ground dry and will I be able to
plant there all I want is some low maintenence plants and shrubs as
we are now both in our sixties we just want something that is easy to
manage.
Regards
Mollie
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you said you water on a daily basis. possible that you water only
syperficially rather than long, slow, deep watering less often? just
a thought... |
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| lannerman... |
| Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:27 pm |
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mollie38;866326 Wrote:
Quote: Many thanks for your speedy response The trees were enormous we had 7 in
total, we have taken them down to the soil level trying to get the roots
out though is a nightmare have been on a few sites which say drill
holes in the stumps of the trees and put various chemicals down. what
I was going to ask if its impossible to take all the stumps out of the
ground will that still make the ground dry and will I be able to plant
there all I want is some low maintenence plants and shrubs as we
are now both in our sixties we just want something that is easy to
manage.
Regards
Mollie
Hi, mollie, without wishing to 'shut the door after the horse has
bolted' so to speak, you made the mistake most people make when taking
out any tree/large shrub by cutting it down to ground level and then
worrying about the remaining stump/root. For future reference and for
other 'viewers' the easiest way to remove any large shrub etc. is to
remove the side branches, leaving as much of the main stem/trunk, tie a
rope to the top and cut around the stump with a mattock whilst pulling
on the rope and you will find it relatively easy to pull the whole
thing over and out. But back to your present situation, the reason that
the ground was dry was that the foliage of the conifer physically
prevented the rain from reaching the soil and also the conifer would
naturally have taken an enormous ammount of water from the ground in
it,s own right but as its now gone you will be ok. Personally I would
not bother with the drilling and application of chemicals etc. as the
roots will eventually rot. Your only problem will be the physical
ability to dig holes with the stump and roots still in the ground, so
providing you 'plan' where you will plant so that you can dig holes you
will be OK. Without knowing where you live, I would opt for prostrate
evergreen shrubs in groups which will not only look quite attractive
but be relatively easy to maintain and the following suggestions will
also cover the ground qite quickly; Ceanothus thy. Repens.
Rosmarinus prostratus, Euonymous 'Emerald and Gold'. 'Sunspot' or
'Emerald Gaiety' Hebe albicans, Leucothoe 'Scarletta' Erica carnea
varieties etc. etc. and if you have not shredded the leylandii , which
would have made a superb mulch for your 'new' planting, mulch the area
with bark etc. for effect, to retain moisture and suppression of weeds
(and to hide your stumps) Hope some of this helps,
Regards Lannerman.
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| mollie38... |
| Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:37 am |
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Higgs Boson;866372 Wrote:
Quote: On Oct 5, 2:59*am, mollie38 mollie38.53fa... at (no spam) gardenbanter.co.uk
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lannerman;866304 Wrote:
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Hi mollie, You don't say how big the Leylandii trees were? but
assuming
that they were a reasonable size, this would account for the arid
conditions around them as not only do they take up alot of water in
their own right, they also 'sheild' the soil fom natural rain. You
say
you 'took them out' but also that you 'cut them down', if its the
former then just the addition of some organic matter and base
fertilizer when replanting will suffice. If the latter is true and
you
just cut them down then you will need to remove the stumps and as
many
of the roots as possible before replanting.
Regards Lannerman.-
Many thanks for your speedy response The trees were enormous we had 7
in total, we have taken them down to the soil level trying to get the
roots out though is a nightmare have been on *a few sites which say
drill holes in the stumps of the trees and put various *chemicals
down.
what I was going to ask if its impossible to take all *the stumps out
of
the ground will that still make the ground dry and will I be *able to
plant there *all I want *is some low maintenence plants * and shrubs
as
we are now both in our sixties we just want something that is easy to
manage.
Regards
Mollie
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mollie38-
you said you water on a daily basis. possible that you water only
syperficially rather than long, slow, deep watering less often? just
a thought...
Hi
Many thanks for all your tips I have taken note of all the shrubs and
plants for the patio area I live in the UK and I am going to leave it
for at least a week or so as we are having quite a lot of rain at the
moment(The more the better) so that should soften the ground up quite
nicely as it was quite hard to dig, I have cleared all the debris from
the soil there was a lot of leaves off the conifers that had gone into
the soil I cant believe how much lighter the garden are is now with the
conifers gone. I am looking forward to getting out and planting and
redesigning the rockery area.
I did water quite a lot I used to leave the sprinkler on for a few
hours on the patio area but I think it watered the trees themselves
instead of the ground area.
Regards
Mollie
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