We have the honor of hosting Grandmaster Chen Zhenglei for a three day
intensive seminar weekend.  GM Chen is a monumental figure in Tai Chi
and sports education in China.  His accomplishments include:

•     Grandmaster to the 2008 Beijing Olympics Tai Chi performers
•     Youngest master ever voted to the top 10 Kung Fu master’s list
•     One of the top 4 Masters of the 19th generation of Chen Tai Chi
masters and current standard bearer for the generation.
•     Official Master of Ceremonies for the Year 2000 Tai Chi
celebrations

Grandmaster Chen is a rare scholar and teacher of the highest caliber
who trained from a young age exclusively in Chen Tai Chi, and whose
lineage can be traced directly to the first Tai Chi teachers.

Friday 6-8:  Chen Tai Chi Chi Kung (no forms)
Saturday 9 AM - 4 PM:  Old Frame
Sunday 9 AM - 4 PM: New Frame

For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com

For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com

Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.

For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com

Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.

Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?

Appledog wrote:
On Oct 5, 8:54 am, Shuurai <shuura... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com
Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.
Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?

Who knows? Call ahead and find out. Don't just show up at looking for
a fight. Wrong venue. Showing up at a Chi Kung workshop looking for a
fight just shows ignorance. It's a lot like showing up at a Bas Ruten
weightlifting seminar asking him to fight you. It's just weight
lifting - get over it.

Bas Rutten does weightlifting seminars?

That being said, the "opportunity" exists, and if it was executed
properly with the right calls and conversations I'm sure something
would happen. Don't expect a full video crew and weekly youtube
series, however. If that was going to happen it would have happened
long ago. Just go satisfy your own curiosity. And THAT being said, if
the people who have been commenting on this thread aren't planning to
go, what's the point? Go and figure it out, see for yourself. Yes we
all know Bill ALMOST met with someone, or someone else ALMOST met with
someone else, but I'd like a story or two that had something real to
it instead of just providing a platform for speculation.

FWIW I'd again agree to financially back any such meeting, provided it
actually goes through this time (no paying for tickets if someone
backs out this time). You know, as long as everything is aboveboard.

It won't happen. MMA guy beats up Tai Chi guy......news at 6pm, dog
bites man etc.

Unless of course Bill is asked to do it on a beach, running at the Chen
guy...but who'd be dumb enough to do *that*, eh?

No...wait...

GDS

"Let's roll!"

On Oct 5, 8:54 am, Shuurai <shuura... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com
Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.
Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?

Who knows? Call ahead and find out. Don't just show up at looking for
a fight. Wrong venue. Showing up at a Chi Kung workshop looking for a
fight just shows ignorance. It's a lot like showing up at a Bas Ruten
weightlifting seminar asking him to fight you. It's just weight
lifting - get over it.

That being said, the "opportunity" exists, and if it was executed
properly with the right calls and conversations I'm sure something
would happen. Don't expect a full video crew and weekly youtube
series, however. If that was going to happen it would have happened
long ago. Just go satisfy your own curiosity. And THAT being said, if
the people who have been commenting on this thread aren't planning to
go, what's the point? Go and figure it out, see for yourself. Yes we
all know Bill ALMOST met with someone, or someone else ALMOST met with
someone else, but I'd like a story or two that had something real to
it instead of just providing a platform for speculation.

FWIW I'd again agree to financially back any such meeting, provided it
actually goes through this time (no paying for tickets if someone
backs out this time). You know, as long as everything is aboveboard.

On Oct 5, 12:53 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants... at (no spam) iinet.net.au
wrote:
Appledog wrote:
On Oct 5, 8:54 am, Shuurai <shuura... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com
Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.
Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?
Who knows? Call ahead and find out. Don't just show up at looking for
a fight. Wrong venue. Showing up at a Chi Kung workshop looking for a
fight just shows ignorance. It's a lot like showing up at a Bas Ruten
weightlifting seminar asking him to fight you. It's just weight
lifting - get over it.
Bas Rutten does weightlifting seminars?

That being said, the "opportunity" exists, and if it was executed
properly with the right calls and conversations I'm sure something
would happen. Don't expect a full video crew and weekly youtube
series, however. If that was going to happen it would have happened
long ago. Just go satisfy your own curiosity. And THAT being said, if
the people who have been commenting on this thread aren't planning to
go, what's the point? Go and figure it out, see for yourself. Yes we
all know Bill ALMOST met with someone, or someone else ALMOST met with
someone else, but I'd like a story or two that had something real to
it instead of just providing a platform for speculation.
FWIW I'd again agree to financially back any such meeting, provided it
actually goes through this time (no paying for tickets if someone
backs out this time). You know, as long as everything is aboveboard.
It won't happen. MMA guy beats up Tai Chi guy......news at 6pm, dog
bites man etc.

Unless of course Bill is asked to do it on a beach, running at the Chen
guy...but who'd be dumb enough to do *that*, eh?

No...wait...

GDS

"Let's roll!"

Well, if you really believe that every so-called "traditional" martial
art is just like .. jeez who were those guys.. Yellow Bamboo.. yeah,
if you really believe that's all that traditional arts have to offer,
I say sure - I personally have no vested interest in proving anyone
wrong anymore. If you go for it, or don't, it's your concern. But
yeah, if you really think theyre all just like Yellow Bamboo.. that
would be pretty funny heh.

On Oct 5, 8:54 am, Shuurai <shuura... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail.com

Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.

Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?

Who knows? Call ahead and find out. Don't just show up at looking for
a fight. Wrong venue. Showing up at a Chi Kung workshop looking for a
fight just shows ignorance. It's a lot like showing up at a Bas Ruten
weightlifting seminar asking him to fight you. It's just weight
lifting - get over it.

That being said, the "opportunity" exists, and if it was executed
properly with the right calls and conversations I'm sure something
would happen. Don't expect a full video crew and weekly youtube
series, however. If that was going to happen it would have happened
long ago. Just go satisfy your own curiosity. And THAT being said, if
the people who have been commenting on this thread aren't planning to
go, what's the point? Go and figure it out, see for yourself. Yes we
all know Bill ALMOST met with someone, or someone else ALMOST met with
someone else, but I'd like a story or two that had something real to
it instead of just providing a platform for speculation.

FWIW I'd again agree to financially back any such meeting, provided it
actually goes through this time (no paying for tickets if someone
backs out this time). You know, as long as everything is aboveboard.

-

Appledog wrote:
On Oct 5, 10:32 pm, Greendistantstar <Greendistants... at (no spam) iinet.net.au
wrote:
Sure, it's honest. It puts you on the line for what you keep saying
about me, in that it exposes it as being untrue.
No it's not.

Then go ahead and tell us all what you think I believe.

Tut tut, such disingenous replies will get you nowhere. You tell ME
whether chi is a force or not.

He didn't discover any goblins either, so would you like a cite about
that, too? Feynman made it abundantly clear what he thought about psuedo
science, of which chi is undoubtedly a member.

Now you may hold a different view (viz my
first comment) in which case you may care to explain why you think 'chi
as force' is NOT correct.
I may care. Actually I do, to a degree. I even wrote a FAQ about it.
Then if you DO believe that chi is a force,

Non sequitur.

Do you actually know what that means? Apparently not.

I think this is boiling down to something very simple; not only do you
believe in something for which there is no proof, you can't even
identify what it is you believe in.

On Oct 5, 12:24 am, Appledog <oliver.rich... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Oct 5, 8:54 am, Shuurai <shuura... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

For more information, send an e-mail to erik dot squires at gmail..com

Hey...ddidnt i say no more chen tai chi seminars on my turf?
dont force my hand sucker.

Surely if you were to show up for a challenge, the master would accept?

Who knows? Call ahead and find out. Don't just show up at looking for
a fight. Wrong venue. Showing up at a Chi Kung workshop looking for a
fight just shows ignorance. It's a lot like showing up at a Bas Ruten
weightlifting seminar asking him to fight you. It's just weight
lifting - get over it.

well yeah its like that.
cept bas would kick my ass.

I'm not a physicist or an engineer but my father was both
What was the focus of his doctorate in Physics? In Engineering?
Aw, you know... That physics and enginenering stuff that they do...
OH....you mean the *SECRET* stuff? I had no idear...

All that engineering stuff is just theory anyway...

Mike K. wrote:
On Oct 11, 4:11 pm, Erik Squires <erik.squi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

In addition one thing to keep in mind about Tai Chi as a health
exercise is that thre is a large and growing body of work in peer
reviewed publications.

Greetings Erik.

Can you please list some of these peer reviewed publications?

-Mike K.

Hi Mike

I'm inclined to be believe that Tai Chi could provide some modicum of benefit
to one's health, in the same way that waving one's arms around would, or
standing one leg. I remain unconvinced of its efficacy as a martial art,
beyond the efficiency one might gain from, say, waving one's arms around
would, or standing one leg.

"Greendistantstar" <Greendistantstar at (no spam) iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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Mike K. wrote:
On Oct 11, 4:11 pm, Erik Squires <erik.squi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

In addition one thing to keep in mind about Tai Chi as a health
exercise is that thre is a large and growing body of work in peer
reviewed publications.
Greetings Erik.

Can you please list some of these peer reviewed publications?

-Mike K.
Hi Mike

I'm inclined to be believe that Tai Chi could provide some modicum of benefit
to one's health, in the same way that waving one's arms around would, or
standing one leg. I remain unconvinced of its efficacy as a martial art,
beyond the efficiency one might gain from, say, waving one's arms around
would, or standing one leg.

When I did Tai Chi I felt warm all over and very relaxed when I finished.
Kinda like when I spend time with Wannabes mum.

Fraser

Fraser Johnston wrote:
"Greendistantstar" <Greendistantstar at (no spam) iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:g9-dncJCdOlGGknXnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d at (no spam) westnet.com.au...
Mike K. wrote:
On Oct 11, 4:11 pm, Erik Squires <erik.squi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

In addition one thing to keep in mind about Tai Chi as a health
exercise is that thre is a large and growing body of work in peer
reviewed publications.
Greetings Erik.

Can you please list some of these peer reviewed publications?

-Mike K.
Hi Mike

I'm inclined to be believe that Tai Chi could provide some modicum of
benefit to one's health, in the same way that waving one's arms around
would, or standing one leg. I remain unconvinced of its efficacy as a
martial art, beyond the efficiency one might gain from, say, waving one's
arms around would, or standing one leg.

When I did Tai Chi I felt warm all over and very relaxed when I finished.
Kinda like when I spend time with Wannabes mum.

Fraser

You don't however have to stand in line and wait your turn to 'do' Tai Chi ;

On Oct 11, 4:11 pm, Erik Squires <erik.squi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

In addition one thing to keep in mind aboutTaiChias a health
exercise is that thre is a large and growing body of work in peer
reviewed publications.  

Greetings Erik.

Can you please list some of these peer reviewed publications?

-Mike K.