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| Hector Hound... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:17 am |
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Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:13 am |
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I heard on "The FiringLine Forums" that some coyotes like apples. On
YouTube they say that Gray Squirrels eat apples too.
KM
On Sep 28, 5:17 am, Hector Hound <Hector.Hound.
5367... at (no spam) gardenbanter.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
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| John McGaw... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 9:11 am |
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Hector Hound wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Well, foxes are somewhat omnivorous. I've watched one teaching its kit how
to pick up mulberries that had fallen on my driveway but I kind of doubt
that foxes would have been picking your apples. My first guess about a
culprit would be deer. In my mother's yard are several apple trees and
every autumn morning at sunrise we can see anything up to four deer eating
fallen apples from the ground. If they run out of fallen apples then they
will pick them from the tree while standing on all-fours and when the easy
ones are gone they will stand on their hind legs to get more. Five or six
feet seems about right for the height.
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[Knoxville, TN, USA]
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| Frank... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:12 am |
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Hector Hound wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Around here, deer are the culprits. Look for droppings and hoof prints. |
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| brooklyn1... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:17 am |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:12:02 -0400, Frank
<frankperiodlogullo at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: Hector Hound wrote:
Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Around here, deer are the culprits. Look for droppings and hoof prints.
I can't imagine that 4 year old apple trees are very large and have
many apples... those are mere saplings. One would certainly know
whether there were deer about, if there are there'd be no need for
this post... in fact were there deer not only would there be no
apples, there'd be no trees, they'd have long ago eaten them.
If not the neighbor's kids perhaps the neighbor picked some...
couldn't take more than a couple minutes to harvest a couple four year
old trees... I have 2 seven year old apple trees, they're barely 1 1/2
caliper and barely 8' tall. |
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:59 pm |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:11:01 -0400, John McGaw <Nobody at (no spam) Nowh.ere>
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Quote: Hector Hound wrote:
Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Well, foxes are somewhat omnivorous. I've watched one teaching its kit how
to pick up mulberries that had fallen on my driveway but I kind of doubt
that foxes would have been picking your apples. My first guess about a
culprit would be deer. In my mother's yard are several apple trees and
every autumn morning at sunrise we can see anything up to four deer eating
fallen apples from the ground. If they run out of fallen apples then they
will pick them from the tree while standing on all-fours and when the easy
ones are gone they will stand on their hind legs to get more. Five or six
feet seems about right for the height.
I don't know if the foxes got the apples, but they like them. I
volunteered at a wildlife rehab that had a pretty tame fox there and
he like all kinds of fruit and nuts, as well as everyone's favorite
(including the possums) vanilla wafers.
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| SteveB... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:19 pm |
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"John McGaw" <Nobody at (no spam) Nowh.ere> wrote in message
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Quote: Hector Hound wrote:
Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory. Any other ideas? Has anybody else
had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Well, foxes are somewhat omnivorous. I've watched one teaching its kit how
to pick up mulberries that had fallen on my driveway but I kind of doubt
that foxes would have been picking your apples. My first guess about a
culprit would be deer. In my mother's yard are several apple trees and
every autumn morning at sunrise we can see anything up to four deer eating
fallen apples from the ground. If they run out of fallen apples then they
will pick them from the tree while standing on all-fours and when the easy
ones are gone they will stand on their hind legs to get more. Five or six
feet seems about right for the height.
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John McGaw
[Knoxville, TN, USA]
http://johnmcgaw.com
Take it from someone who had the EXACT SAME experience. We finally figured
it out. It was one of two things. Either aliens (interplanetary, not
global), or local "rock squirrels". We know it was not deer in our case, as
there were no prints. The local rock squirrels,
http://dwrcdc.nr.utah.gov/rsgis2/Search/Display.asp?FlNm=spervari
are quite notorious and obnoxious here. They live in canyons and rocks
rather than tree nests. A crew of them can strip a tree in a very short
time. On apricot trees, they leave the fruit on the ground, taking only the
seeds. They are wary, and difficult to trap or shoot. I am working on a
couple of concept traps, and would be a very popular fellow in the
neighborhood should they work.
Look around, as an investigator would, looking for footprints and feces and
anything they leave behind. It is a crew of squirrels, or other local
critters, and they know just when they are ripe, and overnight, or within
twelve hours, the tree is picked cleaner than any workman could do. But,
like you, there were apples left at the top, and on the bottom where they
would be easy to reach for a child, or a deer. The soil around our tree is
blow sand, so tracks are obvious. This year we had a lesser crop, and when
they were ready, WE picked them.
Since in your case, the grass was trampled, that would lead me to suspect a
larger animal, although squirrels over repeated trips with apples could
press it down. Just take a careful look.
Me, I think it was the Martians.
Steve
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson -
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| SteveB... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:21 pm |
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<kmlcc at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I heard on "The FiringLine Forums" that some coyotes like apples. On
YouTube they say that Gray Squirrels eat apples too.
KM
Correct on both counts. I had a coyote come out in broad daylight to feed
on crabapples (those that are about one inch in diameter) and it returned
several days in a row. I thought it was cute, being a newcomer to this
ranch life. I found out later that it had eaten a turkey, a cat, and a kid
goat at the neighbor's house.
Any squirrel eats apples.
Steve
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of
patriots and tyrants. - Thomas Jefferson -
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| David Hare-Scott... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:38 pm |
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Hector Hound wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree,
from about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was
trampled and there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll
have to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I
think it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples
that were left, they would have been very small kids - too young for
the usual profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood
and the kids and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially
for small kids, has never been "visited" before and there were no
signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of
the apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
It isn't possums, fruit bats, cockatoos or koalas. And it isn't .... hang
on, without knowing where you are the list of candidates is a bit too long.
David |
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Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:20 pm |
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.....long time passing.....
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| Gloria P... |
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:53 pm |
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Hector Hound wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
What else is in your neighborhood?
squirrels?
raccoons?
deer?
moose?
All eat apples.
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Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 9:30 am |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:59:35 -0500, kate at (no spam) notme.com wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 11:11:01 -0400, John McGaw <Nobody at (no spam) Nowh.ere
wrote:
Hector Hound wrote:
Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Well, foxes are somewhat omnivorous. I've watched one teaching its kit how
to pick up mulberries that had fallen on my driveway but I kind of doubt
that foxes would have been picking your apples. My first guess about a
culprit would be deer. In my mother's yard are several apple trees and
every autumn morning at sunrise we can see anything up to four deer eating
fallen apples from the ground. If they run out of fallen apples then they
will pick them from the tree while standing on all-fours and when the easy
ones are gone they will stand on their hind legs to get more. Five or six
feet seems about right for the height.
I don't know if the foxes got the apples, but they like them. I
volunteered at a wildlife rehab that had a pretty tame fox there and
he like all kinds of fruit and nuts, as well as everyone's favorite
(including the possums) vanilla wafers.
Kate
Deer like them. I have seen them stand on their back haunches to get
apples. I thought dogs were strictly carnivores (never had a
dog--always wanted one) but I have seen them eat pears and apples, not
sure if that is good for them though. Caught a skunk using a slice of
apple, but actually trying to catch a muskrat. Personally, I love
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Posted: Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:43 pm |
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After coming back from vacation in the fall I found all of my yellow
delicious apples GONE..there was absolutely no trace of anything.
I was going to report it to our local police but then I considered how
foolish that would be.
The following year I found out who and what happened.
Grey Squirrels I watched in disbelief as they stripped that tree of all it's
fruit, not one was eaten or dropped and they were huge..most likely
squirrels are your problem.
"brooklyn1" <gravesend10 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in message
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Quote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 12:12:02 -0400, Frank
frankperiodlogullo at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Hector Hound wrote:
Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
Around here, deer are the culprits. Look for droppings and hoof prints.
I can't imagine that 4 year old apple trees are very large and have
many apples... those are mere saplings. One would certainly know
whether there were deer about, if there are there'd be no need for
this post... in fact were there deer not only would there be no
apples, there'd be no trees, they'd have long ago eaten them.
If not the neighbor's kids perhaps the neighbor picked some...
couldn't take more than a couple minutes to harvest a couple four year
old trees... I have 2 seven year old apple trees, they're barely 1 1/2
caliper and barely 8' tall.
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Hector Hound wrote:
Quote: Hi. My first post is a puzzle. My apples have disappeared! I have two
trees, about four years old. One day last week, there were all my
apples - gone. Well, all except for a few at the top of each tree, from
about five feet upwards. The grass underneath the trees was trampled and
there were no apples on the ground.
I know the obvious answer is kids and if I can't find another I'll have
to settle for that. The problem is that, for various reasons, I think
it's unlikely in this case. Based on the height of the apples that were
left, they would have been very small kids - too young for the usual
profile of apple-takers. And I just know the neighbourhood and the kids
and my garden would be very hard to get into, especially for small kids,
has never been "visited" before and there were no signs of entry.
So - is there an animal that takes apples? Foxes? There are foxes in
the neighbourhood. I believe foxes are omnivorous and the height of the
apples left would fit the fox theory.
Any other ideas? Has anybody else had this experience? Thanks for any
information/suggestions.
Hector.
It's a lot of work, but I use two Havaharts to remove most of the
squirrels from my yard. They can't resist peanut butter smeared
on some bread. Sometimes, it is only a matter of minutes until
I have both traps filled. So far, I have removed over 8 squirrels.
Once you get the population down, it takes longer to fill the traps.
Unfortunately, after a year or two, new squirrels will move into this
'abandoned' territory, so you still have to do some yearly
maintenance.
It is not foolproof, but sort of works for me.
Sherwin |
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Phisherman wrote:
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Deer like them. I have seen them stand on their back haunches to get
apples. I thought dogs were strictly carnivores (never had a
dog--always wanted one) but I have seen them eat pears and apples, not
sure if that is good for them though. Caught a skunk using a slice of
apple, but actually trying to catch a muskrat. Personally, I love
apples and they are currently in season.
Dogs are very adaptable and one which is well-socialized to humans is
likely to try many "human" foods. I had a golden lab which had very human
tastes. For example she liked pizza with any sort of topping including
jalapeņo peppers. She like beer although I did limit her intake to far less
than she would have wanted. On the gardening side (keeping this on-topic)
she learned that she really loved sugar snap peas which I offered her as we
walked through the raised beds. This was cute until she decided that while
I was away she should pick her own which involved tearing down the vines
and stripping them. She also dug up beets and since I never saw any lying
about I'm assuming she was eating them. Probably her favorite human food
was ice cream sandwiches and whenever I brought some from the store I got
one, my wife got one, and Brandy got one (and she would have gladly eaten
ours too).
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[Knoxville, TN, USA]
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