...Could you please tell me, do you
remember the "home" of all these blazons or put the key words from
heraldry into search engines?

On 30 �ен, 03:06, David Cameron Staples <stap... at (no spam) cs.mu.oz.au.SPAM
wrote:

How far back do you want to go?
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, f99r

As far as possible, no chronological limits, Old English is appreciated,
thank you!
I've heard of Chaucer blazons, i will try to find them tomorrow.

On 29 ÓÅÎ, 21:33, Jarry <harryandja... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Not quite heraldic terminology, but a mention none-the-less.

Thank you, it gives one more point of view of the concept of heraldry
and it remainds me of Orlando's words in the novel of the same name.

Of course, Lord of the Rings is stuffed full of heraldry - 'seven
stars and seven stone and one white tree' of Gondor, the white horse
of Rohan, the swan of Dol Amroth, the eye of Sauron, the white hand of
Saruman, and so on and so on.

On 30 �ен, 03:06, David Cameron Staples <stap... at (no spam) cs.mu.oz.au.SPAM
wrote:

How far back do you want to go?
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight, f99r

As far as possible, no chronological limits, Old English is appreciated,
thank you!

Middle English, actually.

Of course, Lord of the Rings is stuffed full of heraldry

Guy Gavriel Kay's "A Song for Arbonne" has a banner for each of the
important characters. šEvery single one of them breaks the rule of
tincture. šThis was not a deliberate attempt to avoid duplication of
real arms- the author had no idea that there was such a rule, and was
amazed that any of his readers would know something as esoteric (in
his opinion) as a rule of heraldry.

I've just found this brilliant reference in Huckleberry Finn:

http://books.google.com/books?id=nhdwhEU6amoC&pg=PA330&dq=coat+of+arm...

Richard Lichten

There's a thread, complete with Twain's own attempt at an emblazon of
these arms, in the forum of the American Heraldry Society, at:http://americanheraldry.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161&page=2

Unfortunately, as this is in the members only section, non members of

Unfortunately, as this is in the members only section, non members of
the AHS won't be able to access it.   Here's a direct link to the
image:

http://etext.virginia.edu/images/modeng/public/Twa2Huc/twah385b.jpg

On Oct 4, 5:40 am, Graham <gra... at (no spam) gmilne.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Of course, Lord of the Rings is stuffed full of heraldry - 'seven
stars and seven stone and one white tree' of Gondor, the white horse
of Rohan, the swan of Dol Amroth, the eye of Sauron, the white hand of
Saruman, and so on and so on.

Guy Gavriel Kay's "A Song for Arbonne" has a banner for each of the
important characters.  Every single one of them breaks the rule of
tincture.  This was not a deliberate attempt to avoid duplication of
real arms- the author had no idea that there was such a rule, and was
amazed that any of his readers would know something as esoteric (in
his opinion) as a rule of heraldry.

And if Kay's arms did simple black on red (sable on gules) designs or
vice versa, there is in fact a lot of European heraldry that supports
the practice; one of our SCA heralds did research showing that for her
SCA-registered arms. If not, what *were* they--and why don't I
remember noticing that when I read it?