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SVRC...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:48 pm
Guest
I need an online source for nitrocellulose lacquer for igniter/e-match
comps.

Is there a brand anyone can recommend or website?
 
FlaMtnBkr...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:48 pm
Guest
On Sep 22, 4:48 pm, "SVRC" <sa... at (no spam) pvconly.com> wrote:
Quote:
I need an online source for nitrocellulose lacquer for igniter/e-match
comps.

Is there a brand anyone can recommend or website?

The easiest and probably most economical source is going to be
smokeless powder from a sporting good store. A gun store or an outdoor
store such as Cabela's or Bass Pro should carry what you need. A
single base powder would probably be best because it does not contain
nitro so you don't have to worry about skin contact as much and the
headaches that are attributed to the nitro contact.

I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure. Even if it does it will still
work well. Then all you need to do is weigh out your smokeless powder
and weigh or measure out some acetone and mix it up. A quick search
will produce acetone's density so that you can just measure out the
amount needed for the percentage of NC lacquer you are going for. 10%,
15%, 25% whatever your 'recipe' calls for is based on weight.

I put mine in a glass jar and let it sit awhile and then shake it
until it is dissolved. Stirring can speed up the process and you want
to make sure you have a good seal on your jar. Acetone will evaporate
quickly and your lacquer will get thicker and a higher percentage NC.

Of course if you want to buy it you can go to skylighter.com and buy
some but it is quite a bit more expensive going that route. A pound of
smokeless powder should be around 20 bucks or a little less and will
make quite a bit of lacquer.

Good luck!
 
SVRC...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:29 pm
Guest
Thank you!

I am a hand-loader for pistol & rifle. I'm willing to bet all of my powder
is double base.

I will check the web to identify a candidate powder!

"FlaMtnBkr" <flamtnbkr at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:01945365-3679-4a33-bd97-1ff2f4312fb2 at (no spam) r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 22, 4:48 pm, "SVRC" <sa... at (no spam) pvconly.com> wrote:
Quote:
I need an online source for nitrocellulose lacquer for igniter/e-match
comps.

Is there a brand anyone can recommend or website?

The easiest and probably most economical source is going to be
smokeless powder from a sporting good store. A gun store or an outdoor
store such as Cabela's or Bass Pro should carry what you need. A
single base powder would probably be best because it does not contain
nitro so you don't have to worry about skin contact as much and the
headaches that are attributed to the nitro contact.

I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure. Even if it does it will still
work well. Then all you need to do is weigh out your smokeless powder
and weigh or measure out some acetone and mix it up. A quick search
will produce acetone's density so that you can just measure out the
amount needed for the percentage of NC lacquer you are going for. 10%,
15%, 25% whatever your 'recipe' calls for is based on weight.

I put mine in a glass jar and let it sit awhile and then shake it
until it is dissolved. Stirring can speed up the process and you want
to make sure you have a good seal on your jar. Acetone will evaporate
quickly and your lacquer will get thicker and a higher percentage NC.

Of course if you want to buy it you can go to skylighter.com and buy
some but it is quite a bit more expensive going that route. A pound of
smokeless powder should be around 20 bucks or a little less and will
make quite a bit of lacquer.

Good luck!
 
TONY S...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:35 am
Guest
On Sep 22, 9:29 pm, "SVRC" <sa... at (no spam) pvconly.com> wrote:
Quote:
Thank you!

I am a hand-loader for pistol & rifle. I'm willing to bet all of my powder
is double base.

I will check the web to identify a candidate powder!

"FlaMtnBkr" <flamtn... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message

news:01945365-3679-4a33-bd97-1ff2f4312fb2 at (no spam) r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 22, 4:48 pm, "SVRC" <sa... at (no spam) pvconly.com> wrote:

I need an online source for nitrocellulose lacquer for igniter/e-match
comps.

Is there a brand anyone can recommend or website?

The easiest and probably most economical source is going to be
smokeless powder from a sporting good store. A gun store or an outdoor
store such as Cabela's or Bass Pro should carry what you need. A
single base powder would probably be best because it does not contain
nitro so you don't have to worry about skin contact as much and the
headaches that are attributed to the nitro contact.

I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure. Even if it does it will still
work well. Then all you need to do is weigh out your smokeless powder
and weigh or measure out some acetone and mix it up. A quick search
will produce acetone's density so that you can just measure out the
amount needed for the percentage of NC lacquer you are going for. 10%,
15%, 25% whatever your 'recipe' calls for is based on weight.

I put mine in a glass jar and let it sit awhile and then shake it
until it is dissolved. Stirring can speed up the process and you want
to make sure you have a good seal on your jar. Acetone will evaporate
quickly and your lacquer will get thicker and a higher percentage NC.

Of course if you want to buy it you can go to skylighter.com and buy
some but it is quite a bit more expensive going that route. A pound of
smokeless powder should be around 20 bucks or a little less and will
make quite a bit of lacquer.

Good luck!

Dman ,your not gonna eat the stuff!!!!! just empty a few shotshells in
a small bottle and top it off with 100% acetone,if you put some
thermite in the slurry it makes a wonderful primer
 
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:28 am
Guest
FlaMtnBkr <flamtnbkr at (no spam) gmail.com> fired this volley in news:01945365-3679-
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Quote:
I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure.

up to 40% nitro by weight.

LLoyd
 
rbirch...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 6:44 am
Guest
I have had good luck with ping pong balls in acetone. For my needs, I
then added ball milled black powder to make a slurry prime. I don't
know if it would suit you needs, but it worked for mine. Also, many
guitar picks are made from pure NC, although some are NC ester and the
colored ones are typically nylon.

Russ
 
Sammy...
Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 9:53 am
Guest
I have been using ping pong balls in acetone to good effect with magnalium,
antimony trisulfide and potassium chlorate, but is will not hold the
smoother batter-like consistancy and tends to clump up over time when
reconsitutued with the addition of acetone to re-wet it.

NC lacquer does not seem to do this

"rbirch" <rbirch at (no spam) merchant-general.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
I have had good luck with ping pong balls in acetone. For my needs, I
then added ball milled black powder to make a slurry prime. I don't
know if it would suit you needs, but it worked for mine. Also, many
guitar picks are made from pure NC, although some are NC ester and the
colored ones are typically nylon.

Russ
 
Jeff Peterson...
Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:06 pm
Guest
On Sep 23, 6:28 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
FlaMtnBkr <flamtn... at (no spam) gmail.com> fired this volley in news:01945365-3679-
4a33-bd97-1ff2f4312... at (no spam) r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure.

up to 40% nitro by weight.

LLoyd

Looking for single base smokeless?

SINGLE BASE
--------------------
Hodgdon Powder Company
------------------------------------
H4227®
H50BMG®
H4831®
H4198®
H4831SC®
VARGET®
H1000®
H4350®
RETUMBO®
Accurate Arms
---------------------
2015BR/XMR2015
2495BR/XMR2495
3100/XMR 3100
4350/XMR4350
XMR4064
Solo 1000
Solo 1250
IMR Powder Company
-----
IMR -
4227
4198
3031
4064
4895
4320
4350
4831
7828
SR - 7625, 4756, 4759
PB
VihtaVuori
--------------
N310
N320
N340
3N37
N350
N105
N110
N120
N130
N133
N135
N140
N160
N165
--

Jeff
 
SVRC...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:55 am
Guest
Thank you very much! I do have a good supply of H4227

"Jeff Peterson" <clajef at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:574fab59-158f-492c-bdba-6f493191d252 at (no spam) b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 23, 6:28 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
FlaMtnBkr <flamtn... at (no spam) gmail.com> fired this volley in news:01945365-3679-
4a33-bd97-1ff2f4312... at (no spam) r36g2000vbn.googlegroups.com:

I thought Green dot and blue dot were both single base but they say
they contain nitroglycerin so not sure.

up to 40% nitro by weight.

LLoyd

Looking for single base smokeless?

SINGLE BASE
--------------------
Hodgdon Powder Company
------------------------------------
H4227®
H50BMG®
H4831®
H4198®
H4831SC®
VARGET®
H1000®
H4350®
RETUMBO®
Accurate Arms
---------------------
2015BR/XMR2015
2495BR/XMR2495
3100/XMR 3100
4350/XMR4350
XMR4064
Solo 1000
Solo 1250
IMR Powder Company
-----
IMR -
4227
4198
3031
4064
4895
4320
4350
4831
7828
SR - 7625, 4756, 4759
PB
VihtaVuori
--------------
N310
N320
N340
3N37
N350
N105
N110
N120
N130
N133
N135
N140
N160
N165
--

Jeff
 
 
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