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| Mark Z... |
Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2009 7:23 pm |
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I am taking an installation art class and I am "deconstructing" an
installation done by artist Roman Signer. The piece is called "Cabin". Here
is a link- http://ead.nb.admin.ch/web/biennale/bi99/e/e_kabine.htm
He used blasting caps wired together to explode 3 cans of black paint. This
is where I'm stumped.
I'm trying to find out what power these caps would be (to minimize injury)
and what something like that would cost. I found an application on the ATF
site that someone would need to apply for to be able to handle items like
this, but have no idea what something like this would cost, where it could
be purchased, etc.
Thanks!
Mark (you can email me at zmanphotog(at)cox.net) |
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| Mark Z... |
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:02 am |
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Can anyone help?
On 9/6/09 8:23 PM, in article C6C9CAB0.16B2%zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net, "Mark Z"
<zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: I am taking an installation art class and I am "deconstructing" an
installation done by artist Roman Signer. The piece is called "Cabin". Here
is a link- http://ead.nb.admin.ch/web/biennale/bi99/e/e_kabine.htm
He used blasting caps wired together to explode 3 cans of black paint. This
is where I'm stumped.
I'm trying to find out what power these caps would be (to minimize injury)
and what something like that would cost. I found an application on the ATF
site that someone would need to apply for to be able to handle items like
this, but have no idea what something like this would cost, where it could
be purchased, etc.
Thanks!
Mark (you can email me at zmanphotog(at)cox.net)
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| StanO... |
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 6:30 pm |
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Mark, It's going to be both cost and time prohibitive for you to get
the license. You'll have to study and pass the test, pay fees, and
have the appropriate facilities to store the caps, etc.
Your best bet is to find someone locally who has the license and
willingness to recreate whatever it is you're attempting.
You probably wont get much response here, as this discussion forum is
about pyrotechnics, and not high explosives (as blasting caps are
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| Mark Z... |
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:53 am |
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Thanks Stan.
Actually, I am not going to mess with any of this stuff (I stay far away
from anything like this) but I am just presenting a paper on what the artist
would have to go through to create something like this. In a way, I thought
I picked an easy one, but I didn't know that he was using such a powerful
device to do this. I found an application on the ATF's web site on what a
person would need to apply for to handle this type of explosive, so that is
a start.
Thanks for your response,
Mark
On 9/7/09 11:30 PM, in article
18c0791e-9f42-45b7-9c29-51b5f26f7412 at (no spam) x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com, "StanO"
<stanowen at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Mark, It's going to be both cost and time prohibitive for you to get
the license. You'll have to study and pass the test, pay fees, and
have the appropriate facilities to store the caps, etc.
Your best bet is to find someone locally who has the license and
willingness to recreate whatever it is you're attempting.
You probably wont get much response here, as this discussion forum is
about pyrotechnics, and not high explosives (as blasting caps are
considered). |
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| Lloyd E. Sponenburgh... |
Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 8:02 am |
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Mark Z <zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net> fired this volley in
news:C6CBCBF3.203B%zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net:
Quote: I found an application on the ATF's web site on what a
person would need to apply for to handle this type of explosive, so
that is a start.
Contrary to a prior response, the ATF license or permit does not involve
any testing or show of competency. State laws vary.
For instance, in Florida, one must have a state blaster's license (which
involves a fairly detailed written test) AND operate under a "master"
blaster until one has served a certain apprenticeship period. Of course,
to purchase any explosives one must also have a BATFE license or permit.
LLoyd |
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| Bob... |
Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:23 pm |
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On Sep 8, 7:02 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
<lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
Quote: Mark Z <zmanpho... at (no spam) cox.net> fired this volley innews:C6CBCBF3.203B%zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net:
I found an application on the ATF's web site on what a
person would need to apply for to handle this type of explosive, so
that is a start.
Contrary to a prior response, the ATF license or permit does not involve
any testing or show of competency. State laws vary.
For instance, in Florida, one must have a state blaster's license (which
involves a fairly detailed written test) AND operate under a "master"
blaster until one has served a certain apprenticeship period. Of course,
to purchase any explosives one must also have a BATFE license or permit.
LLoyd
Anyone else think that "blasting caps" are a bit of overkill for this
application?
Seems to me you could do this with ordinary stage pyro materials, if
not squibs than confetti mortar or very small flash or BP charges.
Although the link doesn't show the artist's view of the setup, I'm
assuming no one in his right mind would have put lids on the paint
cans, and that rather they are just inclined cans with open tops,
filled with paint and a small charge at the bottom of the can.
Real caps would be way too much explosive just to throw some paint on
him!
Comments?
Regards,
Bob |
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| Mark Z... |
Posted: Thu Sep 10, 2009 6:21 am |
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I have read quite a bit of info on this artist, but I'm not sure I ever saw
if the paint cans had the lids off or not. He seems to use caps for other
things.
I guess he has been doing this awhile. If you google "Roman Signer", all
kinds of examples will show up.
He is also on youtube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxdg9xEd2vk
On 9/9/09 6:23 PM, in article
2dbca96f-6176-4faf-9cd0-dc8949a41fc1 at (no spam) d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com, "Bob"
<bob.edwards at (no spam) chromisdesigns.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 8, 7:02 am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:
Mark Z <zmanpho... at (no spam) cox.net> fired this volley
innews:C6CBCBF3.203B%zmanphotog at (no spam) cox.net:
I found an application on the ATF's web site on what a
person would need to apply for to handle this type of explosive, so
that is a start.
Contrary to a prior response, the ATF license or permit does not involve
any testing or show of competency. State laws vary.
For instance, in Florida, one must have a state blaster's license (which
involves a fairly detailed written test) AND operate under a "master"
blaster until one has served a certain apprenticeship period. Of course,
to purchase any explosives one must also have a BATFE license or permit.
LLoyd
Anyone else think that "blasting caps" are a bit of overkill for this
application?
Seems to me you could do this with ordinary stage pyro materials, if
not squibs than confetti mortar or very small flash or BP charges.
Although the link doesn't show the artist's view of the setup, I'm
assuming no one in his right mind would have put lids on the paint
cans, and that rather they are just inclined cans with open tops,
filled with paint and a small charge at the bottom of the can.
Real caps would be way too much explosive just to throw some paint on
him!
Comments?
Regards,
Bob |
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