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| Steve Caple... |
 Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 9:27 am |
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 11:16:06 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
Quote: If Stephenson had worked in a different part of the country (say Wales),
his gauge would have been a little wider or a little narrower.
And indeed several other early rail developers' were.
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| Rick Jones... |
| Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2009 8:37 pm |
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Wolf K wrote:
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The standard gauge didn't become standard until the British Parliament
made it so by law (which meant that Brunel's broad gauge railways had to
be narrowed.) In N. America, there were several gauges, too. The
Southern and Northern States had different gauges, which had mixed
effects during the Civil War. IIRC, Congress eventually regulated the
gauge, to prevent and remove the breaks of gauge that impeded traffic,
but can't recall when. Anyhow, the Erie RR had to narrow its 5ft gauge
sometime before 1880. Etc and so on and so forth.
I seem to recall that the standardization of 4' 8.5" came about when
the Federal government designated that as the gauge to be used in
building the Transcontinental Railroad. Anybody that wanted to connect
their tracks to the TransCon had to adopt the same gauge.
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| Steve Caple... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 12, 2009 12:28 am |
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On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:37:17 -0500, Rick Jones wrote:
Quote: I seem to recall that the standardization of 4' 8.5" came about when
the Federal government designated that as the gauge to be used in
building the Transcontinental Railroad.
It could have been different - Lincoln initially wanted 5 foot gauge, but
"standard" gauge was already predominating before the Transcontinental
Railroad act.
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| gabitzu... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 6:50 am |
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| Greg.Procter... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 5:14 pm |
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:37:17 +1200, Rick Jones
<r.t.jones at (no spam) extra.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: Wolf K wrote:
The standard gauge didn't become standard until the British Parliament
made it so by law (which meant that Brunel's broad gauge railways had
to be narrowed.) In N. America, there were several gauges, too. The
Southern and Northern States had different gauges, which had mixed
effects during the Civil War. IIRC, Congress eventually regulated the
gauge, to prevent and remove the breaks of gauge that impeded traffic,
but can't recall when. Anyhow, the Erie RR had to narrow its 5ft gauge
sometime before 1880. Etc and so on and so forth.
I seem to recall that the standardization of 4' 8.5" came about when
the Federal government designated that as the gauge to be used in
building the Transcontinental Railroad. Anybody that wanted to connect
their tracks to the TransCon had to adopt the same gauge.
What has the US Trans-Continental standard gauge got to do with
standardizing the gauge internationally?
The US Government accepted Stephenson's standard gauge because the
relevant US railways had accepted it. |
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| a_a_a... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 6:51 am |
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Greg.Procter wrote:
Quote: Even the thickest person can't imagine that
Stephenson chose 4'8 1/2" as the gauge because it looked pretty or because
he had a parrot with that wingspan???
Well Greg, only you would know what the thickest person can imagine. We
can't read your mind. So if you say that you can't imagine that, so be
it. We believe you. |
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| Greg.Procter... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 7:52 pm |
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On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 00:51:19 +1200, a_a_a <a at (no spam) a.a.net> wrote:
Quote: Greg.Procter wrote:
Even the thickest person can't imagine that
Stephenson chose 4'8 1/2" as the gauge because it looked pretty or
because
he had a parrot with that wingspan???
Well Greg, only you would know what the thickest person can imagine. We
can't read your mind. So if you say that you can't imagine that, so be
it. We believe you.
Hmmm, so you think he had a parrot ...!
Regards,
Greg.P. |
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| Twibil... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:04 pm |
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On Sep 19, 6:52 pm, "Greg.Procter" <proc... at (no spam) ihug.co.nz> wrote:
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Well Greg, only you would know what the thickest person can imagine. We
can't read your mind. So if you say that you can't imagine that, so be
it. We believe you.
Hmmm, so you think he had a parrot ...!
No, he didn't say that. You did.
If you watch carefully, you'll see your finger move as you type these
things... |
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| Greg.Procter... |
| Posted: Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:25 pm |
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 18:04:59 +1200, Twibil <nowayjose6 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 19, 6:52 pm, "Greg.Procter" <proc... at (no spam) ihug.co.nz> wrote:
Well Greg, only you would know what the thickest person can imagine.
We
can't read your mind. So if you say that you can't imagine that, so
be
it. We believe you.
Hmmm, so you think he had a parrot ...!
No, he didn't say that. You did.
If you watch carefully, you'll see your finger move as you type these
things...
Sure, I presented him with two options - he denied _one_ of them.
One of the rules of argument is that if you disagree with something
then you say what and _why_ you disagree.
"Is", "Isn't" ... is not a learned discussion. (perhaps in your case ...)
If you don't deny the second of two possibilities put to you then a
reasonable assumption is that you accept that point.
"It's been refuted" is not a proper argument - you may well side
one way or the other and raise your flag to so indicate. I'm not
siding with the Internet story about two horses arses causing
a space shuttle booster to be a certain size, I'm repeating something
I figured out about 40 years ago.
Regards,
Greg.P. |
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