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alison j b...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:14 am
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Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?
 
E. Egerer...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:29 am
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alison j b wrote:
Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

The 640 by 480 is for movies at 25 fps (frames per second).
Presumably the 2 megapixel resolution is available for still images.
 
Gadi Ben-Avi...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:29 am
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They probably use interpolation to get a 2 MP image from a vga sensor.
Gadi
"alison j b" <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?
 
Jürgen Exner...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 7:37 am
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alison j b <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote:
Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

No. It has to do with apples versus oranges (video versus pictures).

jue
 
ray...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:59 am
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:14:52 +0100, alison j b wrote:

Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

A pixel is a pixel - does not matter how many bits are needed to define
it. By your assumption, it would require over 11 bytes per pixel to
produce a 2 megabyte file at that resolution - highly unlikely.
 
whisky-dave...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:23 am
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"alison j b" <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

How did you work it out to be 179,000 as 640X480 is 307,200


Quote:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?
 
Mike Cawood, HND BIT...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:07 am
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"alison j b" <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote in message
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Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

It looks to me like 2 megapixels when still pictures are taken & 640x480
when video footage is taken.
Mike
 
J. Clarke...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 10:22 am
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whisky-dave wrote:
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"alison j b" <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote in message
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Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels.
That comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to
his claimed "2 megapixels"?

How did you work it out to be 179,000 as 640X480 is 307,200

In any case, it doesn't say what the maximum resolution is, only that it
shoots 24 frames/second at 640x480.

I believe that the manufacturer's site might be
<http://www.omejo.com/product_view.asp?ID=205>--they say it has a 2
megapixel sensor and outputs JPEG as well as AVI--presumably it shoots 2
megapixel stills.
 
Gene E. Bloch...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 12:10 pm
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On Mon, 27 Jul 2009 12:14:52 +0100, alison j b wrote:

Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

The sensor is 2 MPixels, but the data it creates is stored as 640x480
pixels worth of data, after mathematical processing.

Actually, IIRC, standard definition video is 720x480, so the video data
should really be stored in that format (345600 pixels/frame, but whatever
it is, it is compressed before being stored, of course).

Any more detailed explanations will have to come from someone who knows
more than I do :-)


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Kennedy McEwen...
Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:49 pm
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In article <kcdb3k3ge0g0.3auec2y0auoz.dlg at (no spam) 40tude.net>, Gene E. Bloch
<not-me at (no spam) other.invalid> writes
Quote:

The sensor is 2 MPixels, but the data it creates is stored as 640x480
pixels worth of data, after mathematical processing.

Actually, IIRC, standard definition video is 720x480, so the video data
should really be stored in that format

Not necessarily. 720 pixels per line is itself a compromise, satisfying

studio digital video to PAL and NTSC standards. Square pixel formats,
as required by all PC displays, ie. equal resolution in horizontal and
vertical axes, are 640x480 for SMPTE-170 (eg. common NTSC) and 768x576
for CCIR (eg. common PAL).
SD is a can of worms.
HD is common - almost...
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A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
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Kevin McMurtrie...
Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:04 am
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In article <Xns9C557C97420C764A18E at (no spam) feeder.eternal-september.org>,
alison j b <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

It has to do with 640x480 video hardware being really cheap and low
power. 2M Pix is for stills.

At least they're honest. Many camera makers outright lie about the
video resolution. The truth isn't known until the video file is
inspected. Panasonic uses very questionable interpolation math. Canon
claims the resolution for square pixels but stores a lower resolution
anamorphic image.

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Rich...
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:52 pm
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alison j b <not at (no spam) here.invalid> wrote in
news:Xns9C557C97420C764A18E at (no spam) feeder.eternal-september.org:

Quote:
Exactly how do I calculate megapixels?

This movie camcorder has a resolution of 640 pixels by 480 pixels. That
comes to 179,000 total pixels but how does the vendor get to his claimed
"2 megapixels"?

http://preview.tinyurl.com/mvfbd9

Is it something to do with the number of bits needed to define each
pixel?

It's a piece of s---. Don't waste any more time on it.
 
 
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