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| Frank J. Lhota... |
 Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:12 pm |
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Taylor wrote:
The only good part of that movie was the cartoon shown before it: "The
Fox, the Box and the Lox." This cartoon came about because of the
discovery of an unused "Fractured Fairy Tales" script in the Jay Ward
Studio archives. A modern team of animators made the cartoon, and
lovingly recreated the Jay Ward style. "The Fox, the Box and the Lox"
had all the humor and charm of the original Bullwinkle series.
It is unfortunate that the production team who made this cartoon did not
make the feature. I really regret not leaving the theater after the
cartoon was over!
--
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Gods of Heaven, gods of Earth,
Let everything be as it should be;
Thus shall it be!"
- Magical chant from "Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi"
"Drizzle, Drazzle, Drozzle, Drome,
Time for this one to come home!"
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| Paul S. Person... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 6:35 pm |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 5:12:41 -0400, Ubiquitous <weberm at (no spam) polaris.net>
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Quote: lukebenward at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
God, I *still* have nightmares from the Brendan Fraser, Sarah Jessica
Parker turkey 1999 movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160236/
Just so there's no misunderstandings... I meant the cartoon character
(from 'The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show'). I was just mentioning the movie
in general.
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
Yes. And watching it was an interesting experience.
When I first saw it, I didn't like it at all. This has nothing to do
with everyone except the heroes being live-action and the heroes being
3D animation (as opposed to being in a 3D animated film). It just
didn't seem right, somehow. And it had two obnoxious characters added
for, so far as I could see, contemporary reference. That, I presume
that, if I were up-to-date, I would have recognized them.
A few nights later, while reviewing the film in my mind (something
which often happens to me), it occurred to me that the film truly
captures the essence of the TV show: its sweetness. (I don't know any
other word to describe what I am talking about). So, now I enjoy it
every time I see it, focusing on its capture of the essence of the
original. How else do you reach the point where you realize that the
film does, indeed, contain a character who is even more clueless than
Bullwinkle?
I also find the idea of Boris and Natasha giving up, marrying, and
raising the rottenest kids ever enticing. I liked it the first time
because it extended their characters. I still like it because it
extends their characters; who would ever have thought that they might
reflect on their endless failures and dream of an alternative life?
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| Ubiquitous... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:35 am |
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In article <hb5ga9$e0e$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>, FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com wrote:
Quote: Ubiquitous wrote:
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
Yup, live action with an animated Rocky and Bullwinkle added.
So how did Dudley Do-Right fit in this movie?
Quote: Don't worry about missing it, it wasn't very good.
It doesn't sound it. |
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| Chris Sobieniak... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:43 am |
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On Oct 14, 5:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article <dbadnfr_8q8Mm0vXnZ2dnUVZ_hVi4... at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Ubiquitous <web... at (no spam) polaris.net> wrote:
lukebenw... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
God, I *still* have nightmares from the Brendan Fraser, Sarah Jessica
Parker turkey 1999 movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160236/
Just so there's no misunderstandings... I meant the cartoon character
(from 'The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show'). I was just mentioning the movie
in general.
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
God, I wish there hadn't been. I finally saw it recently, and it was as
bad as I'd heard, Piper Perabo notwithstanding.
I'm glad I still haven't seen it! |
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| Ubiquitous... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:00 pm |
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In article <hb5ltk$m08$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>, FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com wrote:
Quote: Taylor wrote:
The only good part of that movie was the cartoon shown before it: "The
Fox, the Box and the Lox." This cartoon came about because of the
discovery of an unused "Fractured Fairy Tales" script in the Jay Ward
Studio archives. A modern team of animators made the cartoon, and
lovingly recreated the Jay Ward style. "The Fox, the Box and the Lox"
had all the humor and charm of the original Bullwinkle series.
It is unfortunate that the production team who made this cartoon did not
make the feature.
But they didn't, really; they used a leftover script from jay Ward. |
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| Anim8rFSK... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 6:55 pm |
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In article
<9a379bf4-1296-49de-8de4-f8766f9e6fc8 at (no spam) a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Sobieniak <sobieniak at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 14, 5:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <dbadnfr 8q8Mm0vXnZ2dnUVZ hVi4... at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Ubiquitous <web... at (no spam) polaris.net> wrote:
lukebenw... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
God, I *still* have nightmares from the Brendan Fraser, Sarah Jessica
Parker turkey 1999 movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160236/
Just so there's no misunderstandings... I meant the cartoon character
(from 'The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show'). I was just mentioning the movie
in general.
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
God, I wish there hadn't been. I finally saw it recently, and it was as
bad as I'd heard, Piper Perabo notwithstanding.
I'm glad I still haven't seen it!
Keep it that way.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU! |
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| Chris Sobieniak... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 7:50 pm |
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On Oct 15, 8:55 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article
9a379bf4-1296-49de-8de4-f8766f9e6... at (no spam) a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Sobieniak <sobien... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 14, 5:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <dbadnfr 8q8Mm0vXnZ2dnUVZ hVi4... at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Ubiquitous <web... at (no spam) polaris.net> wrote:
lukebenw... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
God, I *still* have nightmares from the Brendan Fraser, Sarah Jessica
Parker turkey 1999 movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160236/
Just so there's no misunderstandings... I meant the cartoon character
(from 'The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show'). I was just mentioning the movie
in general.
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
God, I wish there hadn't been. I finally saw it recently, and it was as
bad as I'd heard, Piper Perabo notwithstanding.
I'm glad I still haven't seen it!
Keep it that way.
We all should! Just put it past your mind and it never existed! |
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| Anim8rFSK... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:41 am |
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In article
<bfd7d7d7-df51-48a5-9b66-31b6a10c70f5 at (no spam) v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Sobieniak <sobieniak at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 15, 8:55 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article
9a379bf4-1296-49de-8de4-f8766f9e6... at (no spam) a21g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Chris Sobieniak <sobien... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 14, 5:23 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
In article <dbadnfr 8q8Mm0vXnZ2dnUVZ hVi4... at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Ubiquitous <web... at (no spam) polaris.net> wrote:
lukebenw... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
God, I *still* have nightmares from the Brendan Fraser, Sarah
Jessica
Parker turkey 1999 movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0160236/
Just so there's no misunderstandings... I meant the cartoon
character
(from 'The Rocky & Bullwinkle Show'). I was just mentioning the
movie
in general.
There was a Rocky and Hoodwinkle live-action movie?
God, I wish there hadn't been. I finally saw it recently, and it was
as
bad as I'd heard, Piper Perabo notwithstanding.
I'm glad I still haven't seen it!
Keep it that way.
We all should! Just put it past your mind and it never existed!
Those that do not remember history are doomed to repeat it.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU! |
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| Frank J. Lhota... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 6:55 pm |
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Ubiquitous wrote:
Quote: In article <hb5ltk$m08$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>, FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com wrote:
Taylor wrote:
The only good part of that movie was the cartoon shown before it: "The
Fox, the Box and the Lox." This cartoon came about because of the
discovery of an unused "Fractured Fairy Tales" script in the Jay Ward
Studio archives. A modern team of animators made the cartoon, and
lovingly recreated the Jay Ward style. "The Fox, the Box and the Lox"
had all the humor and charm of the original Bullwinkle series.
It is unfortunate that the production team who made this cartoon did not
make the feature.
But they didn't, really; they used a leftover script from jay Ward.
True, what the feature really needed was a writing team as talented as
the one that worked at Jay Ward. But the crew who worked on "The Fox,
the Box and the Lox" still deserve a lot of credit for the way they were
able to recreate the look and feel -- and the fun -- of the vintage Jay
Ward cartoons.
Consider another great 60's TV cartoon series: "The Alvin Show",
starring Alvin and the Chipmunks. This series had the usual Saturday
morning stiff animation, but the stories and music were clever and funny
enough to overcome budget limitations. The Chipmunks have been back in
several forms over the years, including a 1980's Saturday morning TV
series, an animated feature, and a live action feature with the
Chipmunks rendered in CGI. All of these efforts have much better
production values than the original 60's series. Unfortunately, none of
these efforts display an ounce of wit, and hence none of them are worth
a nanosecond of your time.
--
"All things extant in this world,
Gods of Heaven, gods of Earth,
Let everything be as it should be;
Thus shall it be!"
- Magical chant from "Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi"
"Drizzle, Drazzle, Drozzle, Drome,
Time for this one to come home!"
- Mr. Wizard from "Tooter Turtle" |
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| Anim8rFSK... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:04 pm |
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In article <hbb4l7$uro$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>,
"Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com> wrote:
Quote: Ubiquitous wrote:
In article <hb5ltk$m08$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>, FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com wrote:
Taylor wrote:
The only good part of that movie was the cartoon shown before it: "The
Fox, the Box and the Lox." This cartoon came about because of the
discovery of an unused "Fractured Fairy Tales" script in the Jay Ward
Studio archives. A modern team of animators made the cartoon, and
lovingly recreated the Jay Ward style. "The Fox, the Box and the Lox"
had all the humor and charm of the original Bullwinkle series.
It is unfortunate that the production team who made this cartoon did not
make the feature.
But they didn't, really; they used a leftover script from jay Ward.
True, what the feature really needed was a writing team as talented as
the one that worked at Jay Ward. But the crew who worked on "The Fox,
the Box and the Lox" still deserve a lot of credit for the way they were
able to recreate the look and feel -- and the fun -- of the vintage Jay
Ward cartoons.
Consider another great 60's TV cartoon series: "The Alvin Show",
starring Alvin and the Chipmunks. This series had the usual Saturday
morning stiff animation, but the stories and music were clever and funny
enough to overcome budget limitations. The Chipmunks have been back in
several forms over the years, including a 1980's Saturday morning TV
series, an animated feature, and a live action feature with the
Chipmunks rendered in CGI. All of these efforts have much better
production values than the original 60's series. Unfortunately, none of
these efforts display an ounce of wit, and hence none of them are worth
a nanosecond of your time.
From what I've heard from the people that suffered working on the
Chipmunks the last 30 years, I think we can directly and completely
blame Janice Karman for that.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU! |
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| Chris Sobieniak... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 6:53 am |
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On Oct 17, 12:04 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article <hbb4l7$ur... at (no spam) news.albasani.net>,
"Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS... at (no spam) rcn.com> wrote:
Ubiquitous wrote:
In article <hb5ltk$m0... at (no spam) news.albasani.net>, FrankLho.NOS... at (no spam) rcn.com wrote:
Taylor wrote:
The only good part of that movie was the cartoon shown before it: "The
Fox, the Box and the Lox." This cartoon came about because of the
discovery of an unused "Fractured Fairy Tales" script in the Jay Ward
Studio archives. A modern team of animators made the cartoon, and
lovingly recreated the Jay Ward style. "The Fox, the Box and the Lox"
had all the humor and charm of the original Bullwinkle series.
It is unfortunate that the production team who made this cartoon did not
make the feature.
But they didn't, really; they used a leftover script from jay Ward.
True, what the feature really needed was a writing team as talented as
the one that worked at Jay Ward. But the crew who worked on "The Fox,
the Box and the Lox" still deserve a lot of credit for the way they were
able to recreate the look and feel -- and the fun -- of the vintage Jay
Ward cartoons.
Consider another great 60's TV cartoon series: "The Alvin Show",
starring Alvin and the Chipmunks. This series had the usual Saturday
morning stiff animation, but the stories and music were clever and funny
enough to overcome budget limitations. The Chipmunks have been back in
several forms over the years, including a 1980's Saturday morning TV
series, an animated feature, and a live action feature with the
Chipmunks rendered in CGI. All of these efforts have much better
production values than the original 60's series. Unfortunately, none of
these efforts display an ounce of wit, and hence none of them are worth
a nanosecond of your time.
From what I've heard from the people that suffered working on the
Chipmunks the last 30 years, I think we can directly and completely
blame Janice Karman for that.
Which is why I always felt this episode of Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse: The New Adventures" best sums up the experience!
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/610166
I'm kinda glad they finally got off their corporate a$$es and release
this fine show again on DVD coming soon. |
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| Frank J. Lhota... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 3:23 pm |
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Chris Sobieniak wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 17, 12:04 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Which is why I always felt this episode of Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse: The New Adventures" best sums up the experience!
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/610166
I'm kinda glad they finally got off their corporate a$$es and release
this fine show again on DVD coming soon.
This is great news! BTW John Kricfalusi got his real start working on
this project. "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures" is among the finest TV
that Bakshi and Kricfalusi ever did, so I'm glad to see that this
series is not forgotten.
While we're at it, somebody should release Kricfalusi's short-lived
"Beany and Cecil" revival. This was a very funny series that has a lot
of appeal to both John K. fans and the fans of Bob Clampett, the creator
of the original series. John K. idolizes Bob Clampett, so he made sure
the revival was done right. When John K. injected those wonderful
Clampett-like touches, he was unfortunately going against ABC's wishes,
so they pulled the plug on this one half way through season one.
Apparently ABC considered being obedient to be much more important than
being funny.
--
"All things extant in this world,
Gods of Heaven, gods of Earth,
Let everything be as it should be;
Thus shall it be!"
- Magical chant from "Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi"
"Drizzle, Drazzle, Drozzle, Drome,
Time for this one to come home!"
- Mr. Wizard from "Tooter Turtle" |
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| Anim8rFSK... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 4:17 pm |
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In article <hbdcl5$cnc$1 at (no spam) news.albasani.net>,
"Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOSPAM at (no spam) rcn.com> wrote:
Quote: Chris Sobieniak wrote:
On Oct 17, 12:04 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Which is why I always felt this episode of Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse: The New Adventures" best sums up the experience!
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/610166
I'm kinda glad they finally got off their corporate a$$es and release
this fine show again on DVD coming soon.
This is great news! BTW John Kricfalusi got his real start working on
this project. "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures" is among the finest TV
that Bakshi and Kricfalusi ever did, so I'm glad to see that this
series is not forgotten.
I still want to see decent copies of the original operatic Mighty Mouse
episodes.
--
Stargate Universe SGU: It puts the "U" in "SUCKS"!
It's the show 'Defiling Gravity' would be if DG had more regulars,
fewer abortions, worse writers, and no budget for lighting.
Remember, you can't spell "disgust" without SGU! |
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| Chris Sobieniak... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 5:50 am |
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On Oct 17, 5:23 pm, "Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS... at (no spam) rcn.com> wrote:
Quote: Chris Sobieniak wrote:
On Oct 17, 12:04 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Which is why I always felt this episode of Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse: The New Adventures" best sums up the experience!
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/610166
I'm kinda glad they finally got off their corporate a$$es and release
this fine show again on DVD coming soon.
This is great news! BTW John Kricfalusi got his real start working on
this project. "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures" is among the finest TV
that Bakshi and Kricfalusi ever did, so I'm glad to see that this
series is not forgotten.
True, this was when they finally got to stretch their feet for once
instead of the usual restraints John & Co. were fed up with time and
time again.
Quote: While we're at it, somebody should release Kricfalusi's short-lived
"Beany and Cecil" revival. This was a very funny series that has a lot
of appeal to both John K. fans and the fans of Bob Clampett, the creator
of the original series. John K. idolizes Bob Clampett, so he made sure
the revival was done right. When John K. injected those wonderful
Clampett-like touches, he was unfortunately going against ABC's wishes,
so they pulled the plug on this one half way through season one.
Apparently ABC considered being obedient to be much more important than
being funny.
It was their loss (I don't think they had anything good on that season
anyway, I only watched CBS and NBC then). |
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| Chris Sobieniak... |
| Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 6:11 am |
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On Oct 17, 6:17 pm, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: In article <hbdcl5$cn... at (no spam) news.albasani.net>,
"Frank J. Lhota" <FrankLho.NOS... at (no spam) rcn.com> wrote:
Chris Sobieniak wrote:
On Oct 17, 12:04 am, Anim8rFSK <ANIM8R... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Which is why I always felt this episode of Ralph Bakshi's "Mighty
Mouse: The New Adventures" best sums up the experience!
http://www.clipser.com/watch_video/610166
I'm kinda glad they finally got off their corporate a$$es and release
this fine show again on DVD coming soon.
This is great news! BTW John Kricfalusi got his real start working on
this project. "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures" is among the finest TV
that Bakshi and Kricfalusi ever did, so I'm glad to see that this
series is not forgotten.
I still want to see decent copies of the original operatic Mighty Mouse
episodes.
We all do. Apparently the best CBS can give us is four measly
Terrytoons for this set, though I heard one of them will be the first
Mighty Mouse cartoon when he was called "Super Mouse" (and featuring
the original theatrical titles as opposed to the lame TV release
prints we've seen as always).
Of course for most of us, we all think a Terrytoons box set should've
been optioned instead. Of course the best I ever liked from the
studio was the Gene Deitch-era of the mid 50's when he came to the
studio and shook it's foundations a little with some fresh new ideas
that didn't sit right with the old guard who had been there for
decades. Some of these can be watched on YouTube to give a better
understanding of this period..
It's A Living (featuring Dinky Duck): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90RqsNMXE5U
Another Day, Another Doormat (featuring John Doormat):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1LMaL3idEo
Flebus: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owev_Iw1kQw
The Flamboyant Arms (featuring Clint Clobber): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMIzb0dp-mc
Gaston's Easel Life (featuring Gaston le Crayon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mrw21orJiu4
R. O. Blechman's The Juggler of Our Lady: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxsOM5II4D0
Too bad these TV editions don't do the original Cinemascope cartoons
any justice here. This is why it's so important that these cartoons
should not be forgotten entirely. |
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