My webbing on my cams are ten years old. If I'm reluctant to ship them to
get new slings sewn on, would it be impractical to just clip the cable on
my metolius/hb's?

Dwight

My webbing on my cams are ten years old. If I'm reluctant to ship them to
get new slings sewn on, would it be impractical to just clip the cable on
my metolius/hb's?

Dwight

I prefer a simple piece of perlon (webbings good too) with an inline figure
8 or something comparable and a double water knot on the ends to back the
whole monstrosity up...works every time.

Michael A. Riches <rockrat9 at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
My webbing on my cams are ten years old. If I'm reluctant to ship them to
get new slings sewn on, would it be impractical to just clip the cable on
my metolius/hb's?
Dwight

I prefer a simple piece of perlon (webbings good too) with an inline figure
8 or something comparable and a double water knot on the ends to back the
whole monstrosity up...works every time.

I had a guy at a climbing shop show me a knot that he claimed is
superior to a water knot. It's identical to a water knot, only instead
of just putting one end of the webbing through the knot in the other, in
the opposite direction, he would stuff one end of the webbing *inside*
the other for eight or ten inches, then work the overhand knot,
previously tied elsewhere in the length of the sling, down onto the
doubled portion. Obviously this works only with tubular webbing.

I had a guy at a climbing shop show me a knot that he claimed is
superior to a water knot. It's identical to a water knot, only instead
of just putting one end of the webbing through the knot in the other, in
the opposite direction, he would stuff one end of the webbing *inside*
the other for eight or ten inches, then work the overhand knot,
previously tied elsewhere in the length of the sling, down onto the
doubled portion. Obviously this works only with tubular webbing.

Bill

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The thing about all water knots is the presumption that you WILL check
them with some frequency, because the nylon has a tendency to creep over
slight load and time. And you will have to reloosen and reset the one
free end (typically the outer, but not always).

I've done embedded overhands, too.

I had a guy at a climbing shop show me a knot that he claimed is
superior to a water knot. It's identical to a water knot, only instead
of just putting one end of the webbing through the knot in the other, in
the opposite direction, he would stuff one end of the webbing *inside*
the other for eight or ten inches, then work the overhand knot,
previously tied elsewhere in the length of the sling, down onto the
doubled portion. Obviously this works only with tubular webbing.

I've seen it done that way before, but I'm for simplicity. When the temp.
drops and you're trying to tie something with frozen fingers, the easiest
way works best for me...

I wouldn't consider bothering to tie one for a rap sling.

I prefer them
for slings since it keeps the tails under control, but I normally tie
those at home where it's warm. I use long tails. It's easy to check
the hidden tail by feel.

Hall writes:
I wouldn't consider bothering to tie one for a rap sling.

Ya, I realize that, but stuff happens to slings and things, usually at the
most inopportune moment...

I prefer them
for slings since it keeps the tails under control, but I normally tie
those at home where it's warm. I use long tails. It's easy to check
the hidden tail by feel.

Do those, like you say, at home where it's warm and then keep a good file or
other knots that are comparable and easy to tie in the Artic...

Hal, did you tie any knots when you were in the Arctic last summer?

Hal, did you tie any knots when you were in the Arctic last summer?

Not that I remember. Maybe in string.

I saw its re-emergence. I still tend to prefer double fishermans and
test. I worry a bit sbout the inline getting the maximal cross section
and hanging vs. the minimal.

Just another thing for Hal's check list:
Bear class in Fairbanks.
Tie knots in the Arctic......

Ohhh, and you've got to tie all the knots you know, bare-handed in temps.
below -30F...

Hal, did you tie any knots when you were in the Arctic last summer?

Not that I remember. Maybe in string.

Ahh, come on...??? Not even a shoelace...???

Ratzzz...(O.K...So we're officially well into the Velcro age...)