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| Michael A. Riches... |
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:11 pm |
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Quote: Hey, don't give up on the guy too quick.
First a deliberate mistake, then deliberate provocation; I was afraid
that a pun was coming next.
If he gets to that place closest to the Moon, I bet he'd let me stand
on his shoulders to prove that you can get still closer to the Moon by
walking...
You know, I was kinda getting into the thread until Mr. Munn Mann went off
the deep end...
Takes all kinds I guess.
Ratzzz...
Ohhh... My most humble apologies to Mr. Munn... I meant Androcles...
Ratzzz...(Promise, won't happen again...) |
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| Androcles... |
Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 8:54 pm |
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<williamsdavid65 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:7608d4e7-2ea7-4277-895e-bb8b1488c288 at (no spam) t21g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...
On May 25, 4:50 pm, "Androcles" <Headmas... at (no spam) Hogwarts.physics> wrote:
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Well no, this has no importance at all. All we'd done is proven
Sir Ranulph Fiennes ascent of Everest and his claim "This is the
closest you can get to the moon by walking" has no real basis in
geometry, there are many places you could walk to that are
closest to the moon at the time you take a stroll up a mountain.
The moon will be where it will be and if Everest is facing away
from the Moon then Sir Ranulph Fiennes is FURTHEST from
the Moon (which he will be 12 hours later as the Earth turns).
Not 12 hours, not unless Everest is on the equator, which it isn't.
But there will be a time, when the latitude of the sub-lunar point is
roughly equal and opposite to that of Everest, when the peak of
Everest is the most distant point on the earth from the moon .
dow
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Well no, this has no importance at all. |
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| Michael A. Riches... |
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 12:33 pm |
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Quote: Homework assignment: look up the dictionary definitions of "surest"
and "infallible". Compare and contrast.
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Jim Janney
Jim:
You ain't going to win this one. No matter how good your argument is, this
moron is so full of himself that no amount of reason will ever change his
stance. When you're born with a peanut instead of brain, you simply don't
have the power to reason or conduct any sort of intelligent conversation.
I'm sure the doctors that are in charge of Mr. Clueless will eventually pull
his plug. This was an experiment that didn't work.
What did it prove...??? Well, you and everyone else can see that even those
with "Zero" (as in Androclueless' case) to meager amounts of consciousness
can actually work the internet. But Like Androclueless, it takes more than
meager intelligence to actually get involved and hold any form of
"intelligent" conversation...
Ratzzz...(Ohhh...and by the time he gets done kill-filing everyone, there
won't be a need to continue this thread...) |
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| Jim Janney... |
Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 1:39 pm |
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"Michael A. Riches" <rockrat9 at (no spam) comcast.net> writes:
Quote: Homework assignment: look up the dictionary definitions of "surest"
and "infallible". Compare and contrast.
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Jim Janney
Jim:
You ain't going to win this one. No matter how good your argument is, this
moron is so full of himself that no amount of reason will ever change his
stance. When you're born with a peanut instead of brain, you simply don't
have the power to reason or conduct any sort of intelligent conversation.
I'm sure the doctors that are in charge of Mr. Clueless will eventually pull
his plug. This was an experiment that didn't work.
What did it prove...??? Well, you and everyone else can see that even those
with "Zero" (as in Androclueless' case) to meager amounts of consciousness
can actually work the internet. But Like Androclueless, it takes more than
meager intelligence to actually get involved and hold any form of
"intelligent" conversation...
Ratzzz...(Ohhh...and by the time he gets done kill-filing everyone, there
won't be a need to continue this thread...)
I'm familiar with the type. Rather than admit a mistake, they squirt
ink in all directions, then vanish in a cloud of insults. It can be
entertaining, or just sad.
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| Steve Willner... |
Posted: Wed Jun 03, 2009 12:07 pm |
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In article <gvcgmt$a79$1 at (no spam) news.xmission.com>,
D_Frumious_B at (no spam) ndersnat.ch writes:
Quote: I don't have the Guiness Book at hand, but I seem to recall that it
says the farthest point from the Earth's center is Chimborazo
(20,561'/6,265m), in Ecuador.
Many years ago, Isaac Asimov wrote an article identifying the tallest
mountains on Earth by three different measures. Mt. Everest is of
course the highest above sea level, and Mauna Kea is the highest
measured from its base (which is far below the sea surface). The
third measure was from Earth's center, and I remember Asimov's answer
as being in the Andes, but I don't remember the name. It may well be
Chimborazo, as the previous poster sugggests. Whatever the answer
is, it must answer the OP's question.
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Cambridge, MA 02138 USA
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| arkle... |
Posted: Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:35 am |
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In article <h06s6n$r84$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-september.org>, Steve Willner
<willner at (no spam) cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:
Quote: In article <gvcgmt$a79$1 at (no spam) news.xmission.com>,
D_Frumious_B at (no spam) ndersnat.ch writes:
I don't have the Guiness Book at hand, but I seem to recall that it
says the farthest point from the Earth's center is Chimborazo
(20,561'/6,265m), in Ecuador.
Many years ago, Isaac Asimov wrote an article identifying the tallest
mountains on Earth by three different measures. Mt. Everest is of
course the highest above sea level, and Mauna Kea is the highest
measured from its base (which is far below the sea surface). The
third measure was from Earth's center, and I remember Asimov's answer
as being in the Andes, but I don't remember the name. It may well be
Chimborazo, as the previous poster sugggests. Whatever the answer
is, it must answer the OP's question.
Chimborazo is correct. Check it out at
http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/BeataUnke.shtml |
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Posted: Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:59 am |
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On May 21, 10:22 am, Peter Munn <pmunn... at (no spam) pearce-neptune.demon.co.uk>
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Quote: According to a BBC report this morning, the explorer Fynes, having just
climbed Everest to become the first person to do this and cross both
Arctic and Antarctic, spoke of his ascent as being the closest you can
get to the Moon by walking. This got me thinking.
Taken literally, you don't have to think long to realise it's at least
not always true, because the Moon isn't always overhead. Know about the
moon's orbit, think a little longer, and you realise your timing has to
be just right. Consider the shape of the Earth, and you will wonder if
Everest is even the right mountain to climb.
So how do you get closest to the Moon by walking? Who might the current
record holder be? And when and where could a record attempt be made?
Firstly, the Earth-Moon distance varies each month by several times the
diameter of the whole planet, never mind the height of a mountain, so
you have to choose exactly the right time of month.
Not all lunar perigees are equal. At some perigees, the moon is many
kilometres closer to the earth than at other perigees. The perigee
distance varies because the moon's orbit is substantially distorted by
the gravity of the sun, and this distortion varies depending on how
close the earth is to the sun, which depends on the time of year.
It is possible, but I don't know if it is actually true, that the very
smallest earth-moon distance may happen if perigee roughly coincides
with the earth's perihelion (in early January) and with full moon, or
alternatively with the earth's aphelon (early July) and new moon. In
these cases, the moon's celestial latitude can be about as far north
as possible, i.e. 28.5 degrees north, which happens to be close to the
latitude of Mount Everest.
So it *is* possible that the summit of Everest is the point on the
earth that periodically goes closest to the moon.
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