Coat of Arms for Freemasons link:http://www.bibleprobe.com/coat.gif

Note figures have red fur  and cloven hooves along with wings. The
overall picture would appear at first to represent angels but then
what angels have you ever seen with cloven hooves and red fur. Also
very important to note... most depictions of angels include arms and
hands. These creatures do not possess arms or hands so we can only
conclude that they are some form of lesser angel or more probably
devils.

Jesus emphatically declared in John 3: 18-19 that the basis for
deciding one's eternal destiny is whether they accept Jesus, the Light
of the world. Good character and good works can exist in a person who
is not saved.  Jesus said; "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me." Freemasonry has "missed" or
replaced entirely the most important part of the above statements.

Catholics are NOT free to become Freemasons
Why?  Because of its Religion nature and masons worship false idols

Taken fromhttp://bibleprobe.com/freemasonry.htm

You’re perspective is typical of the anti-masonic view that is popular
among the Southern Baptists sect.

Rather more popular among the Roman Catholic "sect."  

Joseph McMillan

On 9 Oct, 17:55, Joseph McMillan <mcmillan... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



Rather more popular among the Roman Catholic "sect."  

Joseph McMillan

Joseph

I must confess to being somewhat disappointed by that comment of
yours.  I had thought you were better than that.

I apologize if the term "sect" offended any Catholics. Obviously I

On Oct 9, 1:47 pm, StephenP <plow... at (no spam) uk2.net> wrote:> On 9 Oct, 17:55, Joseph McMillan <mcmillan... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Rather more popular among the Roman Catholic "sect."  

Joseph McMillan

Joseph

I must confess to being somewhat disappointed by that comment of
yours.  I had thought you were better than that.

I apologize if the term "sect" offended any Catholics.  Obviously I
would not seriously describe the Roman Catholic Church a sect.
However, I had expected that my use of quotation marks around the word
would have made clear that my purpose was only to convey that its use
is equally inappropriate in reference to the 16,000,000 or so members
of churches affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention (of whom,
I should add, I am not one).

As for the substance rather than the terminology, I think one must
deduce from the opening paragraph of "Humanum Genus" that the Roman
Catholic Church does indeed see Freemasonry as being of Satanic
inspiration.  Leo XIII says as much, describing it as part of "the
kingdom of Satan, in whose possession and control are all whosoever
follow the fatal example of their leader and of our first parents,
those who refuse to obey the divine and eternal law, and who have many
aims of their own in contempt of God, and many aims also against God."

Southern Baptist official statements on this subject are more moderate
in tone (as, in fairness, are the more recent Catholic official
statements).  For those who care, the official Baptist positions can
be found athttp://www.sbc.net/aboutus/faqs.asp#19and the pages
linked therefrom.

So I think that it is quite fair to say that the anti-masonic views of
the Roman Catholic Church are closer to those expressed in initial
post than are the anti-masonic views of Southern Baptists.  But I
would insist that neither Catholics nor Baptists should be referring
to the other as "sects."

Joseph McMillan

So I think that it is quite fair to say that the anti-masonic views of
the Roman Catholic Church are closer to those expressed in initial
post than are the anti-masonic views of Southern Baptists.  But I
would insist that neither Catholics nor Baptists should be referring
to the other as "sects."

Joseph McMillan

Right.  Apparently you simply missed that Joseph used it in quotation
marks to point out the inappropriateness of its original use by Greg.

Nat Taylor

 The > "Holy Rollers" as they are known in the states condem it because of
their 'literalists' views on all things spritual that spirit being
Jesus alone - full stop.  The assertions lent by the Southern Baptist
(sect) have no authority whatsoever from which they derive their -
opinions and the arguments they put forward are at best exagerations
of (speculations) on their part.  

On 9 Oct, 21:43, Joseph McMillan <mcmillan... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

So I think that it is quite fair to say that the anti-masonic views of
the Roman Catholic Church are closer to those expressed in initial
post than are the anti-masonic views of Southern Baptists.  But I
would insist that neither Catholics nor Baptists should be referring
to the other as "sects."

Joseph McMillan

Joseph

Sect or "sect" can be seen as a disparaging description, especially
when used by those of a Jack Chick mentality.

Freemasonry is also viewed with some suspicion in some non religious
circles.  My limited understanding of the matter is that the European
Freemasonry has been very anti-clerical and anti the Roman Catholic
Church in particular.  Freemasonry from the British "tradition" is not/
was not anti-clerical.  However, the UK being a Protestant nation it
probably did not really enter the Catholic consciousness when
contemplating Freemasonry.

Yours aye

Stephen

On Oct 9, 11:19 pm, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

 The > "Holy Rollers" as they are known in the states condem it because of
their 'literalists' views on all things spritual that spirit being
Jesus alone - full stop.  The assertions lent by the Southern Baptist
(sect) have no authority whatsoever from which they derive their -
opinions and the arguments they put forward are at best exagerations
of (speculations) on their part.  

Greg:  Your apparent identification of "Holy Rollers" with Southern
Baptists suggests that you know no more about this than any other
subject you regularly babble about in this group.

Joseph McMillan

Sect or "sect" can be seen as a disparaging description, especially
when used by those of a Jack Chick mentality.

And I was told you were a nice guy: guess not...  

And by the way Joe:
your "clan" boasts a connection to MacGibbon. Do you think you can
clarify that?

On Oct 10, 10:24 am, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:



And I was told you were a nice guy: guess not...  

Oh, I can be a very nice guy, up to a point.  In this case, up to the
point at which someone insults about 2/3 of the people from my home
state, including a good chunk of my family, and then doesn't have the
good sense to retract the insult when it is pointed out to him.  I
don't feel any obligation to be a "nice guy" to someone who is
intentionally offensive.

And by the way Joe:
your "clan" boasts a connection to MacGibbon. Do you think you can
clarify that?

No, I'm afraid not.  I was unaware of any supposed connection, but if
anyone actually has pointed one out, I'm sure it was more in the
nature of a confession than a boast.

Joseph McMillan

On 10 Oct, 10:11, Joseph McMillan <mcmillan... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On Oct 10, 10:24 am, Greg <scoti... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:

And I was told you were a nice guy: guess not...  

Oh, I can be a very nice guy, up to a point.  In this case, up to the
point at which someone insults about 2/3 of the people from my home
state, including a good chunk of my family, and then doesn't have the
good sense to retract the insult when it is pointed out to him.  I
don't feel any obligation to be a "nice guy" to someone who is
intentionally offensive.

And by the way Joe:
your "clan" boasts a connection to MacGibbon. Do you think you can
clarify that?

No, I'm afraid not.  I was unaware of any supposed connection, but if
anyone actually has pointed one out, I'm sure it was more in the
nature of a confession than a boast.

Joseph McMillan

Well Joey, here's some information for you.  You guys always like to
post
supportive material....
Again, since you don't know what you're talking about and
you can't see that I have in no way intentionally insulted any
religion: which on my worst day, I would never do, I merely pointed
out the behavior of a (sect) within a demonination that is well known
for extemely prejudicail views: this sect is militant and quite on par
with other histroical suppressive movements.   My wife is Babtist!!
You must clearly grasp the concept of teh meaning of the word...

You crack me up Joe.  Because you can't defend your posistion, you
resort to playing the part of the victim.  READ READ READ and then
speak!http://www.masonicinfo.com/people.htm

So here brain:http://www.clanmacmillan.org/MacGibbons.html

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