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I2Run...
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:46 pm
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mon: 8.2 mi (400' climb)
tue: rest
wed: 11.1 mi (500' climb)
thu: 6.0 mi (350' climb)
fri: 12.1 mi (1200' climb)
sat: easy
sun: AM: 7.1 mi, inc 10K (715' climb) in 43:40
PM: 5 mi walk (800' climb)
total: 44.5 mi (3165' climb)
jobs...
Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:03 pm
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Tony S. wrote:
Quote:
Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
goals.


M - 1.5 mile
T - 3.5 miles
W - 2 miles
T - -
F - -
S - AM: 4 miles hike + 1.5 run
PM: 2.5 miles run
S - -

total: 11 miles.

Took it easy this week. Goals: build base up to a consistent 30 mpw.

jobs
Anthony...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 12:56 am
Guest
No major goals. 1/2 Marathon in December probably.
10k along the way.

Mon: 12.5k easy grass. 35' bike
Tue: off
Wed: 2k v.easy with 12 y/o daughter
5k easy with 17 y/o daughter
7k easy -> mod, found myself going
quite fast the last few kms without really
planning to - one of those "good" days...
Thu: off
Fri: 21k easy grass. Start off very slow and gradually
speed up. 6:00/km (9.30/ mile) -> 4:45/km (7:30/mile)
35' bike
Sat: 2k v. easy, 1 hr Ex bike (33km)
Sun: 13k easy, 20' bike.

Total: 62.5km (39 miles), 2.5 hrs bike

Anthony. Jerusalem, Israel.
...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:27 am
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On Oct 5, 7:50 pm, "rms" <rsqui... at (no spam) REMOVEflashMOO.net> wrote:

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Quote:
A little hard for me to understand how you had some walking but
averaged what 6:40 a mile ... must have really been cooking when you
weren't walking!

    You're quite right to question this, I've mistaken a '1' for a '7'
before running by race time displays, a 47:xx would be more likely for me,
and I didn't check my watch.  I try to doublecheck before posting times, but
unlike last year, the RD didn't bother printing out times as runners came
in, telling us to just check the website, and there's nothing there yet.

Well congratulations either way.

A 47 and change would be something under 8 minutes a mile for a 10k
while a 41 is down in the mid+ 6 minute range.

What kind of pace do you usually run for longer races? That might be
a useful checkpoint.

If you were thinking you were going to run an hour and fifteen minutes
for a 12k ( I think that was in your original post ... that sounds
like what 10:30+ per mile ).
Daniel...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 10:57 am
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Training Week Ending October 5, 2008

Mon 0 weights
Tue 5.7 warmup, 5x alternating 400M/200M with short rest, CD
Wed 3.2 hills, easy
Thu 6.2 hills, steady
Fri 3.1 easy
Sat 3.1 easy
Sun 11.6 hills, easy/long

Total: 32.9 miles running, + some walking; Time On Legs ~ 6 hours

Goals: 10K on Oct. 26; HM Nov. 9.

Things I Learned This Week:
Thursday: Goelitz/Jelly-Belly "Sport Beans" are pukey factory guy
had given me some samples).
Sunday: that particular shoe/sock combo was starting to give me a
distinctly blistery-feeling hot spot after about 1:45:00 (though no
blister visible... it might be floating down there).

Peace,
--
Daniel ( deltaechomike at (no spam) usa.net )
rms...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:49 am
Guest
Quote:
Thursday: Goelitz/Jelly-Belly "Sport Beans" are pukey factory guy
had given me some samples).

I tried these a couple marathons ago, and they're a disaster. Nothing
gastric, but actually opening the package and extracting them, once the
temperature warmed up and they stuck together. And then being forced to
chew on them while they're sticking to the teeth, and attempting to breathe
at the same time? No thanks. Gels are infinitely better imho for single
servings. I'd be interested in bulk gel like the bottles Hammer sells, but
dispensing it during the race from those little waist bottles I'm not sure
about either, never having tried it. It would be fun to try something
different in hydration/fueling for this upcoming Palo Duro 50.

rms
rms...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 11:55 am
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Quote:
No major goals. 1/2 Marathon in December probably.

This have a website (just curious) ?

rms
Dot...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 1:44 pm
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rms wrote:
Quote:
Thursday: Goelitz/Jelly-Belly "Sport Beans" are pukey factory guy
had given me some samples).


I tried these a couple marathons ago, and they're a disaster. Nothing
gastric, but actually opening the package and extracting them, once the
temperature warmed up and they stuck together. And then being forced to
chew on them while they're sticking to the teeth, and attempting to breathe
at the same time? No thanks. Gels are infinitely better imho for single
servings. I'd be interested in bulk gel like the bottles Hammer sells, but
dispensing it during the race from those little waist bottles I'm not sure
about either, never having tried it. It would be fun to try something
different in hydration/fueling for this upcoming Palo Duro 50.

rms


Thanks for the tip. I got some a free sample in an order a couple years
ago, and I never tried them. I don't like jelly beans anyway, so they
just looked like they'd be horrible.

I'm one of those that can't imagine trying to open a gel packet and suck
down a full serving of one while running. I did revisit gels (powergel
chocolate) this past spring. While dealing with the tabs was a pain, I
couldn't get down more than a swallow or two. I did have a plastic bag
ready for it to resume later, which I think I did try, but ended up
throwing the rest out. And I'm a chocoholic who didn't think any form of
chocolate could be made bad.

As I understand it, different brands of gel have different thicknesses.
And I know the Succeed products have directions how to make gels out of
them for those that desire - including how to make various thicknesses.
But I haven't tried. I was revisiting gels as a faster way to deal with
treating water and getting calories through something liquid or
semi-liquid. I ended up keeping with the sports drink, since I only
needed to refill the bladder once.

If it's the bottle on the belt that's an issue, you might try the
shoulder strap ones - or whether it's the bottle itself.

I used 10oz bottles of slimfast on my shoulder strap and that worked
fine for me. My equivalent of gels.

Dot

--
"Magic rocks and roots - the ones that trip you but you can never find
afterwards" - Matt Carpenter
Teresa Bippert-Plymate...
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:01 pm
Guest
Tony S. wrote:
Quote:
Greetings rec.runners! Please tell us about your training week and
goals.


Goals: Local GP races, marathon in Dec. Not a good week, but oh well.


Mon: The Flu. No running.
Tue: Ditto.
Wed: 3.62 mi very easy. Felt good to get out, but still a bit woozy.
Thur: 5.37 mi at (no spam) 9:19 on tread, so I can watch the VP debate. Feeling
better today.
Fri: DNR. Almost seemed like it came back, felt fairly rotten today!
Sat: 6.3 mi at (no spam) 9:35. Better.
Sun: Jim Click Run N Roll 8k. 39:44. Odd race today. Ran the first
two miles way too fast. I guess the interval work has now made that
kind of speed feel more normal; I could swear I was going 7:30-7:40,
but the first was 7:10 and second 7:15. Then the stomach decided to
revolt and I slowed waaay down. Not my worst but certainly not a PR.
Though it was good for an AG 3rd. Ran a 2-mi warmup, and after ran
an hour so as to complete marathon training mileage. Oddly, that
made the tummy happy.

Total: 27.29 mi

Teresa in AZ
Tony S....
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2008 2:05 pm
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"rms" <rsquires at (no spam) REMOVEflashMOO.net> wrote in message
news:jhrGk.1895$fD.1684 at (no spam) flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
Quote:
Thursday: Goelitz/Jelly-Belly "Sport Beans" are pukey factory guy
had given me some samples).

I tried these a couple marathons ago, and they're a disaster.
Nothing gastric, but actually opening the package and extracting them,
once the temperature warmed up and they stuck together. And then
being forced to chew on them while they're sticking to the teeth, and
attempting to breathe at the same time? No thanks. Gels are
infinitely better imho for single servings. I'd be interested in bulk
gel like the bottles Hammer sells, but dispensing it during the race
from those little waist bottles I'm not sure about either, never
having tried it. It would be fun to try something different in
hydration/fueling for this upcoming Palo Duro 50.

rms

I like to use a litte gel-flask, that's designed to hold 5 gels, but I
use 3-4 and put in water to fill it. That makes it flow easier.

-Tony
dizzy...
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 6:28 pm
Guest
jobs wrote:

Quote:
M - 1.5 mile
T - 3.5 miles
W - 2 miles
T - -
F - -
S - AM: 4 miles hike + 1.5 run
PM: 2.5 miles run
S - -

total: 11 miles.

Took it easy this week. Goals: build base up to a consistent 30 mpw.

Why such a big goal? You can do 15 miles a week and be in great
shape, and be good to go for 10k races.
Michelle...
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 7:22 pm
Guest
In article <s1sne4l9m5ceor4fnhl7neje4r9v0f9dnl at (no spam) 4ax.com>,
dizzy <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

Quote:
Took it easy this week. Goals: build base up to a consistent 30 mpw.

Why such a big goal? You can do 15 miles a week and be in great
shape, and be good to go for 10k races.

My goal, after the marathon in two weeks and my surgery shortly
thereafter, is also to build up to 30 miles per week. And once I get
comfortable with that, to increase beyond that.

Once I get up there, I'll have a better base for further marathon
training.

--
13.1 Because I can
Tony S....
Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 10:06 pm
Guest
John could you post the thread header for Oct 12th. I'll be away again.
Thanks
Doug Freese...
Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2008 8:07 am
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"dizzy" <dizzy at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:s1sne4l9m5ceor4fnhl7neje4r9v0f9dnl at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote:
jobs wrote:

M - 1.5 mile
T - 3.5 miles
W - 2 miles
T - -
F - -
S - AM: 4 miles hike + 1.5 run
PM: 2.5 miles run
S - -

total: 11 miles.

Took it easy this week. Goals: build base up to a consistent 30 mpw.

Why such a big goal? You can do 15 miles a week and be in great
shape, and be good to go for 10k races.

True, it will keep you in general good shape and get you to the finish
line of a 10k. Others want to go faster or further to feed the
competitive or evil spirits. In that case 15 is like a todlers first few
steps. Running is an outlet with different meaning to different people.
Same for one's job or hobby.


It's perfectly ok to chose the minimalist path to good health only you
seem to suggest that more miles per week is somehow detrimental to life.
If you grow your miles slowly/smartly/safely, you can avoid or minimize
any injuries.



-D
...
Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 6:47 am
Guest
On Oct 7, 7:28 pm, dizzy <di... at (no spam) nospam.invalid> wrote:

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Quote:
Why such a big goal?  You can do 15 miles a week and be in great
shape, and be good to go for 10k races.

Nothing wrong with 60 to 75 a week ... it will keep you out of most
kinds of trouble!
 
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