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| Steven Estergreen |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:08 pm |
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I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you actually
used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?
Thank you,
Steven Estergreen
Mulino, OR |
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| Darin McGrew |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:08 pm |
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Steven Estergreen <dont@spam.me> wrote:
Quote: I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat.
YMMV, but I've found that the typical pants-and-jacket rain suit leaves me
soaked with sweat unless I ride so slowly that I belong on the sidewalk
rather than the street. Even with all sorts of vents open, etc.
What works for me is fenders on the bike and a poncho on me. My lower legs
still get a bit wet, but overall, it's better than the rain suits. Ponchos
are inexpensive, come in extremely visible colors, and can be customized
with reflective tape as desired. If it rained more around here, then I
might try to do something to keep my lower legs drier, perhaps a mud flap
on the front fender, or waterproof leg/shoe covers.
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| Frank Miles |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:08 pm |
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In article <_AKYc.3$353.432@news-west.eli.net>,
Steven Estergreen <dont@spam.me> wrote:
Quote: I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you actually
used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?
Thank you,
Steven Estergreen
Mulino, OR
Portland is a great place for biking (used to live there). However it's
not entirely clear what "moderate intensity" might mean. If it's high
enough that 50F temperature and a thin uncoated nylon jacket would lead
to "saturation" (in dry weather), then you probably aren't going to find a
solution in any garment, at least on some days. Perhaps you could plan on
cleanup and clothes change when you arrive at your destination?
Whether or not that is an option for you...
I have two suggestions for a jacket: one, MEC's bike jacket -- has large
pit zips, good striping, reasonable price for GoreTex. Two (don't know
if they still sell it) Burley's rain jacket -- coated nylon, but good
attention to ventilation. Neither are perfect.
Rather than use pants, I like rain chaps, which leave the lower abdomen
clear. Don't know anyone that sells these any more, but they are extremely
simple to make yourself if you have access to a sewing machine. These
rely on the rain jacket to cover your backside (and front, too).
Personally I don't like rain capes -- too much of a sail for my tastes.
YMMV.
HTH...
-frank
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| Scribner |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 3:06 pm |
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On Mon, 30 Aug 2004 19:02:28 +0000 (UTC), Darin McGrew
<mcgrew@stanfordalumni.org> wrote:
Quote: Steven Estergreen <dont@spam.me> wrote:
I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat.
YMMV, but I've found that the typical pants-and-jacket rain suit leaves me
soaked with sweat unless I ride so slowly that I belong on the sidewalk
rather than the street. Even with all sorts of vents open, etc.
What works for me is fenders on the bike and a poncho on me. My lower legs
still get a bit wet, but overall, it's better than the rain suits. Ponchos
are inexpensive, come in extremely visible colors, and can be customized
with reflective tape as desired. If it rained more around here, then I
might try to do something to keep my lower legs drier, perhaps a mud flap
on the front fender, or waterproof leg/shoe covers.
You know, gators might work well with the poncho. |
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| Alex Rodriguez |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 4:05 pm |
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In article <_AKYc.3$353.432@news-west.eli.net>, dont@spam.me says...
Quote:
I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you actually
used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?
A set of full coverage fenders will help keep you clean and dry. If you are
cycling pretty fast, you will sweat quite a bit. No waterproof jacket will
allow that much water vapor to pass through. So you will either get wet from
your sweat of from the rain water. If you are expecting it to get cold, I
would get a waterproof jacket and put up with the sweat.
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Alex |
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| Andy M-S |
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:07 pm |
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"Steven Estergreen" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message news:<_AKYc.3$353.432@news-west.eli.net>...
Quote: I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt) headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you actually
used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?
Thank you,
Steven Estergreen
Mulino, OR
Steven:
I use a rain cape from Campmor. It's light, and open at the sides.
It has thumb loops which I usually hook over my brake levers. Because
it's open on the sides, you get massive ventilation, which helps keep
the sweat down. Worn with shorts, the only things that will get wet
are your shoes, if--and it's a BIG if--you're willing to ride with
fenders. Without 'em, a raincape is worse than useless. But if you
have fenders, it's wonderful.
The Campmor unit has a strip of reflective material on the back, and
hood which is oddly useless (you CAN wear it under a helmet, but it'll
just give you a sweat head). When it's really pouring and on the cool
side, I add rain pants (cheap Nashbar pair). My trunk is still cool
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| David Damerell |
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 5:33 am |
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Steven Estergreen <dont@spam.me> wrote:
Quote: raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling?
No.
You're riding in 100% humidity; you'd be soaked even if you had a big
umbrella magically suspended over you keeping off every single drop of
rain.
That said, I find mudguards, waterproof booties, and a cycling cape is the
best combination in wet weather.
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| Andrew Webster |
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:06 pm |
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David Damerell <damerell@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote in message news:<4+r*Lpxtq@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>...
Quote: Steven Estergreen <dont@spam.me> wrote:
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling?
No.
You're riding in 100% humidity; you'd be soaked even if you had a big
umbrella magically suspended over you keeping off every single drop of
rain.
That said, I find mudguards, waterproof booties, and a cycling cape is the
best combination in wet weather.
A windscreen also helps - see www.webstersabingdon.plus.com/windscreen for mine.
Andrew Webster |
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| Larry Fieman |
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:05 pm |
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On 8/30/04 2:45 PM, in article _AKYc.3$353.432@news-west.eli.net, "Steven
Estergreen" <dont@spam.me> wrote:
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Quote: I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter ... looking for recommendations for
raingear.
Why the Burley Rapid Rider, of course. I've heard that Portland looks like
an add for Burley during the rain season. The excellent ventilation system
really works. Lots of zips.
After looking on the Burley site, I guess it's now the Rain Rider.
http://www.burley.com/products/raingear/default.aspx?p=Rain+Rider+Jacket&i=1
Regards,
Larry "when in Rome ..." Fieman
Marblehead, MA |
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| g.daniels |
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 1:05 pm |
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look up an outfit called WYEAST.
WYEAST sells fabric-read 'gore tex'mailorder over the internet.
wyeast is a mountain in oregon or washington the owner see pout their
breakfast tab;le window.
gore tex or less expensive equivalent home sewn into rain gear is the
way to go! check the prices and patterns. |
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| Badger_South |
Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 5:06 pm |
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On 2 Sep 2004 10:44:11 -0700, datakoll@yahoo.com (g.daniels) wrote:
Quote: look up an outfit called WYEAST.
WYEAST sells fabric-read 'gore tex'mailorder over the internet.
wyeast is a mountain in oregon or washington the owner see pout their
breakfast tab;le window.
gore tex or less expensive equivalent home sewn into rain gear is the
way to go! check the prices and patterns.
Took me a while to find it....I think this is the place.
http://www.wyeastfabrics.com/
-B |
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| Alex Rodriguez |
Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 1:06 pm |
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In article <ZsSdnabZz-yZcarcRVn-jQ@comcast.com>, Yum@hotmail.com says...
Quote: I too live in Seattle area. I agree with Peter in most points.
I wear yellow GoreTex bike jacket from Gore BikeWear. It workd well for me.
My problem is hands and feet. I wear ski gloves to keep fingers warm, but
gets wet.
Feet get very wet as well. Water seems to come from bottom at clip holes.
I covered them with duct tape, but still not perfect. Any suggestions ?
You could try using a little silicone to seal the area around the cleats.
Then cover that with duct tape. I'm surprised duct tape did not work
for you. I've used duct tape to temporarily patch hoses in my car. It got
me home and lasted until I got the proper hose. Maybe you need a better
quality duct tape?
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Alex |
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| Yum |
Posted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 12:06 am |
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"Alex Rodriguez" <adr5@columbia.edu> wrote in message
news:chabhg$r0c$3@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu...
Quote: Feet get very wet as well. Water seems to come from bottom at clip
holes.
I covered them with duct tape, but still not perfect. Any suggestions ?
You could try using a little silicone to seal the area around the cleats.
Then cover that with duct tape. I'm surprised duct tape did not work
Good idea. I'll try silicone this winter. Thanks. BTW, do you play
baseball ? |
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| g.daniels |
Posted: Sat Sep 11, 2004 1:07 pm |
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http://www.wyeastfabrics.com/
that's them!
for a pattern? take a good fitting used jacket apart(buy a thread rip
out tool and apparel from a thrift)
trace outline onto paper or cardboard
mount nylon on cardboard, taped
place cardboard template on nylon/cardboard and trace,
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then handsew together or convince....
this yields $250 jackets for $50
i have 3 years wear on 11oz(?) oxford nylon bought from wyeast and the
material wears beautifully, no problems, quality material.
see DIY bicycle clothing in bike.tech archives and
http://www.owfinc.com
www.specialtyoutdoors.com |
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| TJ |
Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:10 pm |
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"Steven Estergreen" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
news:_AKYc.3$353.432@news-west.eli.net...
Quote: I live in the Portland, OR, area and want to continue to commute by bike
into the winter for the first time (here, it was no trouble winter
commuting
on a bike in Denver except when below 20F or icy). I have a 10-mile,
semi-rural commute. I already have a NiteRider Classic (12/32 watt)
headlamp
and one or more blinkie LED taillights. I'm looking for recommendations
for
raingear. With my commute distance, I don't have time or patience to ride
so
slow that I won't sweat. Is there any clothing that will keep me
reasonably
dry in a downpour or riding through puddles, but won't be saturated from
the
inside after a half-hour of moderate intensity cycling? Does it also come
with reflective fabric, strips, etc. for nighttime riding? Have you
actually
used it and can you provide me with your impressions of its effectiveness,
durability, etc.?
Thank you,
Steven Estergreen
Mulino, OR
A trip to www.rivercitybicycles.com will hook you up. They are located on
MLK blvd south of Burnside by about 3 blocks. on the left. Next to a Shell
Station. They have all the goodies for commuters.
TJ
www.gvii.net/hundtoft |
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