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 Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:02 pm |
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I am a beginner at shooting. I have shot all gauge shotguns & .22's
but that's about it. I would like some suggestions on what rifle to
look for but I have a couple of requirements.
- I would like to use it for target shooting AND home defense
(oxymoron so maybe a small rifle)
- A slightly larger caliber than a .22
- Less than $400
Suggestions?
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| Peter Konrad... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:05 pm |
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On 19 Jul., 04:02, jnbben... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
# - A slightly larger caliber than a .22
# - Less than $400
The CZ527 comes gighly recommended.
http://www.madogre.com/PowerHouse/CZ527Carbine.htm
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| John Davies... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:05 pm |
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 02:02:30 +0000 (UTC), jnbbender at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
#- I would like to use it for target shooting AND home defense
#(oxymoron so maybe a small rifle)
#- A slightly larger caliber than a .22
#- Less than $400
For defending a home you need a semi- auto - but for $400 you won't
find one that is any good at target work. Plinking, yes.
You have two conflicting requirements. Either you mis-stated what you
want, or you need to spend more, or you need two guns.
If it were me, I would just raise my price and look for a used Flat
Top AR15 carbine with a heavy barrel and open iron sights. That would
be handy enough for use at home, and accurate enough for target work.
Then I could add optics later as needed.
OR.... how about building an inexpensive AR to your own specs, from
basic parts? You can upgrade as your skills and needs change. There
are lots of aftermarket sources, and gunshow vendors.
OR you can buy a very nice used, rebuilt AR rifle for $600 here:
http://www.tickbitesupply.com/firearms.html
"AR15 Model M16A2 C15 Rifle
Great new rifle to tell you about! The C15 M16A2 in caliber .223.
These beautiful AR's were built from Colt and FN rifles. The lower is
by Continental Machine and Tool which makes Stag, S&W, among others.
They feature a New US-MFG 20" Heavy Barrel with bayonet lug and a 1 in
9 twist. Uses New A2 butstock, handguards, take down pins, Bolt
release, Trigger, Safety, Sear, Mag Catch as well as pins for the
Trigger and Hammer. Pre installed Accuwedge. Rifle comes with 2 20
round US made (Master Molder) magazines. The fit, feel and handling of
these rifles are truly amazing. This project is a limited US
production run and will not last long. Grab one while you still can,
Our Warehouse Manager, Shipping Manager and myself put away a few for
ourselves. We had to after testing these babies out! Who knows what
tomorrow will bring!"
John Davies
Spokane WA
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| SaPeIsMa... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:05 pm |
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One of the most interesting shotguns for home defense would be the Saiga
It's a fairly compact, magazine-fed semi-auto, based on the AK action.
Which means that it would be perfect for home defense.
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| R.L. Horn... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:06 pm |
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:23:22 +0000 (UTC), BillM <billmarrs at (no spam) verizon.net>
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# Everybody needs at least one SKS. Or maybe one of the pistol caliber
# carbines?
Or both?  Except that, for some reason, the latter seem to be going for
close to a grand apiece...when you can find one. I don't think SKSs are
quite there yet (but they ain't sixty bucks anymore, either).
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| Tiger... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:06 pm |
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jnbbender at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
# I am a beginner at shooting. I have shot all gauge shotguns & .22's
# but that's about it. I would like some suggestions on what rifle to
# look for but I have a couple of requirements.
#
# - I would like to use it for target shooting AND home defense
# (oxymoron so maybe a small rifle)
# - A slightly larger caliber than a .22
# - Less than $400
#
# Suggestions?
There are plenty of rifles, but at $400 your looking at a used rather
than new gun. For about $300-600 you find anything from a Pump action
Taurus Thunderbolt in .357 mag, or 45 colt to something like a Beretta
Cx4 Storm autoloader in 9mm, 40s&W, or 45 ACP. A .30 Carbine is my
choice but Your price is under 400. You can find many a SKS for that
price but The .30 russian is a bit overpowered for the job.
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| Thomas Reynolds... |
| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:57 am |
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Because of over-penetration, a rifle is not a good choice for home defense.
A shotgun (with shot loads) is best, a handgun second, with a rifle third
IMO.
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| charles Adams... |
| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:16 pm |
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for home defense i recommend taurus judge loaded with 410s point and
fire can hardly miss
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| Brian Bunin... |
| Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:54 am |
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In article <g638su$7ir$1 at (no spam) grapevine.wam.umd.edu>, ca44 at (no spam) webtv.net (charles Adams) wrote:
#for home defense i recommend taurus judge loaded with 410s point and
#fire can hardly miss
A: Not a rifle.
B: NOT accurate at more than 15 yards
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| Namara... |
| Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:06 pm |
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Mister Doug told ya true,give the group some more info and they will reply.
Stooopid me would think long and twelve gauge. You also did not tell us if
the other folks in the househould would be using same FIREARM. (They
should be able to use it too)
Namara< Knows nuttin usese the the damn frying pans on the savages
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