"Tom Biasi" <tombiasi*** at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:

"Fredric L. Rice" <frice at (no spam) skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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"Tom Biasi" <tombiasi*** at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
But to whom do you pray? The bears?
It doesn't matter, the placebo effect works regardless of whether one
prays at deity constructs, brick walls, or bears. It's funny, praying
"works" about 11% of the time, the placebo rate. Actually thinking
about a problem and working to fix it works a whole lot better.
That has got to be the biggest cop out I ever heard.

LOL! You might consider doing a google search on what a placebo is
and how that factors in to deity constructs. }:-} The Skeptical
Inquirer, amusingly enough, carried a journal entry proclaiming
that magic works, and went on to show how placebo effects work
regardless of what the believer believes.

Read more carefully "The Office of the Dead".

The type of mentality that brings a firearm into the forest in the
first place is _far_ more likely to be shot by his own firearm. And
that's even without the alcohol that usually accompanies such people.

Wrong again (or still, whichever...).

I don't drink.

"Fredric L. Rice" <frice at (no spam) skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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The type of mentality that brings a firearm into the forest in the
first place is _far_ more likely to be shot by his own firearm. And
that's even without the alcohol that usually accompanies such people.

"Jim" <quest92 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:

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"Jim" <quest92 at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
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If you value the life of a bear more than that of a human you need to
seek some help.
Which is why I usually pack a big-bore revolver when
hiking in bear country. I love bears, but there's a limit.
I never understood such mentality.
There's probably a lot of things in this world beyond your comprehension.

Translation: You can't address the issues so, like a Usenet n00b,
you try personal attacks. No offense intended, but if you were a
_man_ you wouldn't need to carry a gun to feel manly.

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"Ryan Robbins" <redbird007 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote:

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Which is why I usually pack a big-bore revolver when hiking in bear
country. I love bears, but there's a limit.
You don't really have anything to fear when it comes to black bears. You're
more likely to be killed on the drive home, more likely to be killed by
another hiker, and more likely to be killed by a bee than to be killed by a
black bear.

The type of mentality that brings a firearm into the forest in the
first place is _far_ more likely to be shot by his own firearm. And
that's even without the alcohol that usually accompanies such people.

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I always carry alcohol in the form of hand sanitizer...

Bet it tastes like crap.

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I always carry alcohol in the form of hand sanitizer...

Jim wrote:

Bet it tastes like crap. :-)

Not if you use cat pee as a mixer.... :^)

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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:11:43 GMT, fr... at (no spam) skeptictank.org (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:

"Jim" <ques... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
"Tom Biasi" <tombiasi... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote in message
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If you value the life of a bear more than that of a human you need to
seek some help.
Which is why I usually pack a big-bore revolver when
hiking in bear country. I love bears, but there's a limit.

I never understood such mentality. People entering the forest are
the problem, not the bears. Bears aren't at fault, it's the people
who walk in to their habitats who are the strange creatures who are
intruding.

A minimal response to possible bear maulings would be pepper spray
or bear mace, not a handgun. No U. S. Forest Service employee, and
no unpaid forestry volunteer ever feels the need to carry guns to
use against bears (some carry pepper spray but I think that's more
for violent humans.)

But I never understood the mindset that considers arming up in the
expectation or anticipation of killing innocent animals. Maulings by
bears are extremly few and yet the atrition rate of bears is way too
high.

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Had a "friend of the bears" in Alaska.

Got himself killed and eaten.

By a grizzly bear. Grizzlies are more aggressive than black bears. The
species have different evolutionary histories.

My understanding is that the grizzly has more often than not been at
the top of the food chain. Black bears have an evolutionary history
of survival by avoiding the typically larger and more aggressive
grizzly. It's been wired into their brains to stay away from anything
acting aggressive towards them. Of course there are exceptions.

I always change clothes that I cook in then put dirty cook clothes in a
plastic bag and place inside the Heavy duty LOCKED tool box on my
pickup.I know they can do a lot but they never have broke into the tool
box.

Food must be kept out of the sleep tent as you all know as well as
clothes that you cook in.Not much info here,just getting to know he gang
here,my best to all here in the news group,Larry

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Fredric,
If you value the life of a bear more than that of a human you need to
seek some help.

Tom

Which is why I usually pack a big-bore revolver when hiking in bear
country. I love bears, but there's a limit.

You don't really have anything to fear when it comes to black bears. You're
more likely to be killed on the drive home, more likely to be killed by
another hiker, and more likely to be killed by a bee than to be killed by a
black bear.

"Larry Pate" <LarryPate at (no spam) webtv.net> wrote in message
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I always change clothes that I cook in then put dirty cook clothes in a
plastic bag and place inside the Heavy duty LOCKED tool box on my
pickup.I know they can do a lot but they never have broke into the tool
box.

Food must be kept out of the sleep tent as you all know as well as
clothes that you cook in.Not much info here,just getting to know he gang
here,my best to all here in the news group,Larry



Here is an attack report by a bear on a person using trails in Washington
state. The person envolved had two dogs with him.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20870622/
Diddly

"Siskuwihane" wrote
On Jul 21, 6:41 pm, "Ryan Robbins" wrote:

You don't really have anything to fear when it comes to black bears.
You're
more likely to be killed on the drive home, more likely to be killed by
another hiker, and more likely to be killed by a bee than to be killed by
a
black bear.

Which is why I carry a big-bore revolver when hiking in bee country.

Wrong again (or still, whichever...).
I don't drink.

"Fredric L. Rice" <frice at (no spam) skeptictank.org> wrote in message
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The type of mentality that brings a firearm into the forest in the
first place is _far_ more likely to be shot by his own firearm. And
that's even without the alcohol that usually accompanies such people.

The Placebo describes influence from a higher power