"Bill" <b2forewag... at (no spam) snip.net> wrote in message

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Try listening to Is as you read this

That You Mo-Dean? 5:32 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 100 2 7/13/08
6:32 PM

I plant much stuff about and sometimes it makes and some times it
dies. . Never found anyone who I¹d like to share lunch with that would
tell me how to garden. Just like what to try and I try things and some
work some don¹t. I like to hear about successes and failures too.
Not just food but that issue is growing more in to our yard. Still how
to save caladiums troubles me.

Bill I believe I can help you with your trees. A good source for
information pertaining to trees specifically and other woody, shedding,
perennial plants. www.shigoandtrees.com Two books I would suggest, very
easy reading, big drawings or pictures with lucid words is
MODERN ARBORICULTUREhttp://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/MARBOR.html
and
WORLDWIDE PRUNING GUIDEhttp://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/TPRUNING.html

Your library should have or able to get these books.

Once you would get the books I could walk you through the books page by
page. Every time I read these books I learn something else I forgot I read.
What would be great is if we had many people reading at the same time.
Not like a dissection workshop, but you will get lucid instruction from one
of the foremost recognized tree authorities worldwide. I.e., when he died.
And still continues in the mind and hearts of many many many people
worldwide. I.e., Spain, Italy, Germany, Austria, Japan, and many more
including many states in the United States, not all. His daughter keeps his
teachings going at their website atwww.shigoandtrees.com I think you will
enjoy this stuff. Oh, yeah. Some articles posted on the web that Dr. Shigo
wrote and were published in TCI Journal.http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/ He was a genus with trees!

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Tree Biologisthttp://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.
Some people will buy products they do not understand and not buy books that
will give them understanding.



What interests me is what else you folks find of value. The premise
begins in our gardens dirt and offers potential for more if inclined to
share

The World's Green Laughter 4:04 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 2
6/27/08 6:32 PM AAC audio file 1992

Bill

When bodies collide...

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Try listening to Is as you read this

That You Mo-Dean? 5:32 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 100 2 7/13/08
6:32 PM


I plant much stuff about and sometimes it makes and some times it
dies. . Never found anyone who I¹d like to share lunch with that would
tell me how to garden. Just like what to try and I try things and some
work some don¹t. I like to hear about successes and failures too.
Not just food but that issue is growing more in to our yard. Still how
to save caladiums troubles me.

What interests me is what else you folks find of value. The premise
begins in our gardens dirt and offers potential for more if inclined to
share

The World's Green Laughter 4:04 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 2
6/27/08 6:32 PM AAC audio file 1992


Bill

When bodies collide...

--
Garden in shade zone 5 S Jersey USA

Are you asking about starting a new group, rec.gardens.moderated?

You need to find a moderator.

You need to post a request for discussion (rfd) on the appropriate
groups: this one for a start, and news.groups, and the admin groups.

This is a long involved process. Are you serious about it?

Chris

Try listening to Is as you read this

That You Mo-Dean? 5:32 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 100 2 7/13/08
6:32 PM


I plant much stuff about and sometimes it makes and some times it
dies. . Never found anyone who I¹d like to share lunch with that would
tell me how to garden. Just like what to try and I try things and some
work some don¹t. I like to hear about successes and failures too.
Not just food but that issue is growing more in to our yard. Still how
to save caladiums troubles me.

What interests me is what else you folks find of value. The premise
begins in our gardens dirt and offers potential for more if inclined to
share

The World's Green Laughter 4:04 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 2
6/27/08 6:32 PM AAC audio file 1992


Bill

When bodies collide...

On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:36:01 -0400, Bill <b2forewagner at (no spam) snip.net> wrote:



Try listening to Is as you read this

That You Mo-Dean? 5:32 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 100 2 7/13/08
6:32 PM


I plant much stuff about and sometimes it makes and some times it
dies. . Never found anyone who I¹d like to share lunch with that would
tell me how to garden. Just like what to try and I try things and some
work some don¹t. I like to hear about successes and failures too.
Not just food but that issue is growing more in to our yard. Still how
to save caladiums troubles me.

What interests me is what else you folks find of value. The premise
begins in our gardens dirt and offers potential for more if inclined to
share

The World's Green Laughter 4:04 The B-52's Good Stuff Rock 2
6/27/08 6:32 PM AAC audio file 1992


Bill

When bodies collide...

I did and I think I understand. Tonite in the garden I watched
spellbound as two of my favorite creatures did the dance. A spider had
captured a blink (firefly) and was wrapping it, while the blink kept
blinking thru the silk. What is my role? To observe.

This, and your post, which I had been pondering for some time, led me
to think upon one of my favorite quotes...

"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

-Robert A. Heinlein


Specialization is for insects.

If we limit our relationships with all that goes on in the garden, and
all that which we observe and all that in which we participate,
gardenwise, to simple mechanics and technicalities and disregard the
broader implications and relationships, we are specializing, much in
the vein of monsatano, et al...monoculture.....insects fighting
insects....it's a world gone mad, my friend.

Kinda like photos. As much as I enjoy the subject of a photo, what is
supporting the subject in the background and off to the sides is even
more fascinating to me. Perhaps more important.

Charlie, who should be retiring, but the lightning in the distance is
much too important to ignore and the fragrance of the petunias beckons
me back outside....

Rec.gardens is an interesting forum. The more I read here the more like
minded people I find. Here and no where else?

Enjoy Life ... Dan