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Eris
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 7:08 am
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My daughters boyfriend is an avid hunter with a bow and arrow, and a
..22 Ruger 10/22. He is good at sneaking up on game.
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:08 am
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"Eris" <vithant01@antispam.comcast.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
My daughters boyfriend is an avid hunter with a bow and arrow, and a
.22 Ruger 10/22. He is good at sneaking up on game.
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.

It's going to vary with the individual. I've seen guys smaller than that
shooting far more powerful rifles than a .270 without difficulty.
Everyone's tolerance for recoil and muzzle blast are different.

That being said, a .270 with proper bullet selection will do the job just
fine. Another thing he can look into, if he wants to is a larger caliber
rifle with a muzzle brake installed on the end of the barrel. These do a
fine job of reducing felt recoil, as will a good recoil pad on the stock.

Personally, I feel that while elk are a tough animal, proper bullet
selection and placement are far more important than what caliber they're
being shot with.

Probably the thing to do is to go to a rifle range and see if he can shoot
different rifles and see what he is comfortable with.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
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G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
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Larry Caldwell
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 1:50 pm
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In article <in42j0pqog5jfnda9q57p7cau7doq9gjj1@4ax.com>, vithant01
@antispam.comcast.net (Eris) says...

Quote:
The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

Have him try a .308. It is a particularly sweet shooting cartridge,
with a better selection of bullets than a .270 and about the same
recoil. However, a .270 will certainly do the job with good bullet
placement. He may have to track a blood trail for a ways. Elk can be
hard to bring down.

--
http://home.teleport.com/~larryc
J. Del Col
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 2:00 pm
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Eris <vithant01@antispam.comcast.net> wrote in message news:<in42j0pqog5jfnda9q57p7cau7doq9gjj1@4ax.com>...
Quote:
My daughters boyfriend is an avid hunter with a bow and arrow, and a
.22 Ruger 10/22. He is good at sneaking up on game.
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.


The .270 has killed a lot of elk. If he does his job and uses the
right bullet, he shouldn't have any trouble. The .270 is a much
better choice than the .30-30, whether at short or long range.


J. Del Col
Dick F
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:11 pm
Guest
Eris wrote:
Quote:
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.

I've hunted with a 270 for 25 years and have taken a number of elk with
it using 150 gr Partition bullets. However, I consider it marginal for
elk. I highly recommend that he use a 30-06 instead with 180 gr bullets.
There is very little difference in recoil. If he can handle a 270, he
can handle a 30-06.
If he has a problem with recoil, install a Sims Limbsaver recoil pad. I
put one on a 300 WSM and it made a tremendous difference. A Pachmayr
Decellerator pad would also be very good.

Dick
SBC News
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 6:11 pm
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Steve,
Your back! How did it go?


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Arthur C. Clarke

"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" <stevehuber@outdoorfrontiers.com> wrote in
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Quote:
"Eris" <vithant01@antispam.comcast.net> wrote in message
news:in42j0pqog5jfnda9q57p7cau7doq9gjj1@4ax.com...
My daughters boyfriend is an avid hunter with a bow and arrow, and a
.22 Ruger 10/22. He is good at sneaking up on game.
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.

It's going to vary with the individual. I've seen guys smaller than that
shooting far more powerful rifles than a .270 without difficulty.
Everyone's tolerance for recoil and muzzle blast are different.

That being said, a .270 with proper bullet selection will do the job just
fine. Another thing he can look into, if he wants to is a larger caliber
rifle with a muzzle brake installed on the end of the barrel. These do a
fine job of reducing felt recoil, as will a good recoil pad on the stock.

Personally, I feel that while elk are a tough animal, proper bullet
selection and placement are far more important than what caliber they're
being shot with.

Probably the thing to do is to go to a rifle range and see if he can shoot
different rifles and see what he is comfortable with.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 9:11 pm
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"SBC News" <rsjdn@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3eMYc.11662$VX2.4621@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
Quote:
Steve,
Your back! How did it go?

I'm trying to get the article done. Allow me to say that it was a true
adventure and that my son and I both scored on nice caribou bulls. My hat
is off to Club Montagnais (http://www.clubmontagnais.ca )

When I get the article done, if that's all right with everyone here, I will
post a link that will chronicle the entire trip AND have pictures.
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com
BTMO
Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2004 10:10 pm
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"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" <> wrote

Quote:
When I get the article done, if that's all right with everyone here, I
will
post a link that will chronicle the entire trip AND have pictures.

I think we can see our way clear to allow such a thing...

;-)

YES!!! Please post a link!

Cheers,

Brenton
Buzz Chandler
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:08 pm
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Quote:
The .270 has killed a lot of elk. If he does his job and uses the
right bullet, he shouldn't have any trouble. The .270 is a much
better choice than the .30-30, whether at short or long range.

I would argue the above. At 100 yards or less, the 30-30 is a remarkable

cartridge. The bullet will hold together and penetrate. At short distances,
the 30-30 will work as well as most any cartridge.
Handywired
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:08 pm
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Quote:

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.

Remington Model 7 in 7mm-08 or .308...

-jeff
Carol Dugas
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:08 pm
Guest
In my opinion, a Remington 700 in 7mmRem mag, or even 300win mag both
equipped with a muzzle brake will be o.k. for him. Carol
"Eris" <vithant01@antispam.comcast.net> a écrit dans le message de
news:in42j0pqog5jfnda9q57p7cau7doq9gjj1@4ax.com...
Quote:
My daughters boyfriend is an avid hunter with a bow and arrow, and a
.22 Ruger 10/22. He is good at sneaking up on game.
He wants to go out west and shoot an Elk. He thinks he would be better
off with a .270 because it is the smallest caliber allowed for Elk and
Moose.

The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30. I have no
knowledge of Moose or Elk hunting. He prefers the smaller animals
because he says they taste better.

What are some suggestions for him. He is about 5'6" and about 140lbs.
PMH
Posted: Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:08 pm
Guest
Eris wrote:

Quote:
The .270 seems a little underpowered to me. A friend of mine said if
he will shoot at short distances he should use a 30-30.

I second the other comments on .270 w/ careful bullet selection & proper

shot placement. The .30-30 here in Maine is considered a complete
all-round brush gun (70 yds & under, usually way under) and has dropped
many thousands of deer & moose, sorry - no elk here, but many deer &
moose have been dropped w/ a .270, also. Have him try different loads in
the .270 at a rifle range. He'll soon find the load that suits his
hunting style.

Yours in the north Maine woods,
Pete Hilton (Reg. Me. Guide)

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It's really that simple.
Walt Kelly
J. Del Col
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:08 am
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Buzz Chandler <BuzzC83@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<10j83m9rn2lad31@corp.supernews.com>...
Quote:
The .270 has killed a lot of elk. If he does his job and uses the
right bullet, he shouldn't have any trouble. The .270 is a much
better choice than the .30-30, whether at short or long range.

I would argue the above. At 100 yards or less, the 30-30 is a remarkable
cartridge. The bullet will hold together and penetrate. At short distances,
the 30-30 will work as well as most any cartridge.

The .270 outdoes the .30-30 in terms of energy at any range without
excessive recoil.


J. Del Col
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:09 am
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"BTMO" <btmo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:RPRYc.19866$N77.783029@news.xtra.co.nz...
Quote:
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" <> wrote

When I get the article done, if that's all right with everyone here, I
will
post a link that will chronicle the entire trip AND have pictures.

I think we can see our way clear to allow such a thing...

;-)

YES!!! Please post a link!

Ok Brenton, here's the link to the article I wrote about my caribou
adventure.

http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=219&mode=&order=0&thold=0
--
Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers
http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com
G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods
http://www.herefishyfishy.com
BTMO
Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:08 pm
Guest
"Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" <> wrote

Quote:
YES!!! Please post a link!

Ok Brenton, here's the link to the article I wrote about my caribou
adventure.


http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=219&mode=&order=0&thold=0


:-)

I feel special now...

And this is the closest I am going to get to extreme hunting for a while.

I had hoped to plan a hunt to NZ's South Island sometime within the next
four weeks (it is spring here right now, and the snow is moving up the
mountains), but I have decided that I am going back to university fulltime
next year, to study radiation therapy.

I want to work with cancer sufferers.

Given that I am currently a business analyst with a telco (ie, fairly well
paid by New Zealand standards), 41 years old, have two teenage children, a
mortgage and a long suffering wife, I will be making some *major* changes to
my lifestyle...

The good news is that there are goats and pigs (and some deer) in the forest
park 20 minutes up the road, but that means a 9 hour walk when I get
there...

Thanks for posting the link!

Cheers,

Brenton
 
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