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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 10:06 pm |
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Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type "
lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the war. It
was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and 2"
diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a protective
swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition, and complete
which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a web
pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular lenses, both
of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the side and ahead
of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night operations. The slides
have notches to index them in place. I still have the original wooden
storage box it came in with and 2 wooden slots to hold the lenses. The
brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave |
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| Lee... |
Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 11:22 pm |
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Dave Schertzer wrote:
Quote: Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type "
lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the war. It
was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and 2"
diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a protective
swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition, and complete
which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a web
pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular lenses, both
of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the side and ahead
of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night operations. The slides
have notches to index them in place. I still have the original wooden
storage box it came in with and 2 wooden slots to hold the lenses. The
brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave
Dave.... why don't you contact Renfrew Electric?
at:
http://www.renfrewelectric.com/
Still in business about three kilometers from where I am.
Regards, Lee |
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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:33 am |
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Lee wrote:
Quote: Dave Schertzer wrote:
Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type
" lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the
war. It was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and
2" diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a
protective swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition,
and complete which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a
web pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular
lenses, both of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the
side and ahead of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night
operations. The slides have notches to index them in place. I still
have the original wooden storage box it came in with and 2 wooden
slots to hold the lenses. The brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave
Dave.... why don't you contact Renfrew Electric?
at:
http://www.renfrewelectric.com/
Still in business about three kilometers from where I am.
Regards, Lee
thanks. never seen that....!! |
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Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:13 pm |
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On Jul 10, 9:06 pm, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote: Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type "
lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the war. It
was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and 2"
diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a protective
swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition, and complete
which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a web
pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular lenses, both
of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the side and ahead
of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night operations. The slides
have notches to index them in place. I still have the original wooden
storage box it came in with and 2 wooden slots to hold the lenses. The
brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave
You just typed several paragraphs of identification, in
a post titled "HELP ID".....and yet you somehow know
there's only (2) in "N. AMERICA!!!!"-
What identification is left to know, and how did you
determine there are only two on the entire continent? |
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| Smorgass Bored... |
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:54 pm |
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On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote: Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair) |
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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 11:11 pm |
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ParallelCooler at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: On Jul 10, 9:06 pm, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type "
lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the war. It
was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and 2"
diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a protective
swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition, and complete
which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a web
pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular lenses, both
of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the side and ahead
of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night operations. The slides
have notches to index them in place. I still have the original wooden
storage box it came in with and 2 wooden slots to hold the lenses. The
brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave
You just typed several paragraphs of identification, in
a post titled "HELP ID".....and yet you somehow know
there's only (2) in "N. AMERICA!!!!"-
What identification is left to know, and how did you
determine there are only two on the entire continent?
Well, I've only seen tw0 (2) How many u seen? Any help? |
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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 12:19 am |
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Smorgass Bored wrote:
Quote: On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair)
gee. thanks/// $100pair where? send me the link |
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| Balanced View... |
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:16 am |
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Dave Schertzer wrote:
Quote: Smorgass Bored wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair)
gee. thanks/// $100pair where? send me the link
Such items only really appeal to Specialist groups of collectors, even
if there were only two it is no indicator
of great value. I would suggest contacting the Canadian War Museum
research center:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/libraryarchives/information_e.html
Mike |
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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:45 am |
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Balanced View wrote:
Quote: Dave Schertzer wrote:
Smorgass Bored wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair)
gee. thanks/// $100pair where? send me the link
Such items only really appeal to Specialist groups of collectors, even
if there were only two it is no indicator
of great value. I would suggest contacting the Canadian War Museum
research center:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/libraryarchives/information_e.html
Mike
Mike,
Thanks for the link. The other person who has one has been looking for
over 40yrs now. See the link below.
http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
Well, the srch continues.... |
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| Balanced View... |
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 4:39 pm |
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Dave Schertzer wrote:
Quote: Balanced View wrote:
Dave Schertzer wrote:
Smorgass Bored wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair)
gee. thanks/// $100pair where? send me the link
Such items only really appeal to Specialist groups of collectors,
even if there were only two it is no indicator
of great value. I would suggest contacting the Canadian War Museum
research center:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/libraryarchives/information_e.html
Mike
Mike,
Thanks for the link. The other person who has one has been looking
for over 40yrs now. See the link below.
http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
Well, the srch continues....
Sometimes one only has to look in the right direction, I 'd start with
the link I gave and then hit the local legion halls. |
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| Dave Schertzer... |
Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 6:26 pm |
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Balanced View wrote:
Quote: Dave Schertzer wrote:
Balanced View wrote:
Dave Schertzer wrote:
Smorgass Bored wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:11 am, Dave Schertzer <dschert... at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Well, I've only seen two (2) How many u seen? Any help?
Today, I seen a yellow-billed, blue-eyed, red-crested, green warbler,
which is very rare to Tampa, FL.
I wasn't looking for lamps. Sorry
"Binocular" Doug
(btw, your two lamps are valued at $100 for the pair)
gee. thanks/// $100pair where? send me the link
Such items only really appeal to Specialist groups of collectors,
even if there were only two it is no indicator
of great value. I would suggest contacting the Canadian War Museum
research center:
http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/libraryarchives/information_e.html
Mike
Mike,
Thanks for the link. The other person who has one has been looking
for over 40yrs now. See the link below.
http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
Well, the srch continues....
Sometimes one only has to look in the right direction, I 'd start with
the link I gave and then hit the local legion halls.
Mike,
I've emailed museums, legions, NAVSIG sites, and countless others, abt
70 in total and nobody has any info. One 1 site on the internet as I've
listed. So, it's gonna be rare fer sure without info in the net. I'm
still hopeful somebody has some clue? thanks |
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| Simon... |
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:08 am |
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Dave
Not sure on the web site which type you refer to as there is one with
circular ring of shades and another with a slider described as Hether.
They would obviously be for night boat use as ships would make use of
Aldis or larger signalling lamps (up to 20" dia in daylight. It isn't
clear how the signalling is done, though the first seems to have a
handle that may contain a trigger to either move the mirror behind the
bulb like an Aldis or possibly to switch the power. This would be hand
held, while the other appears more substantial and might have been used
in submarines to contact a boat or the shore during clandestine landings.
With blue filters, they are not navigation lights. Another use may be as
recognition lights rather than for signalling messages. Warships on the
WWII period often had red and blue lamps on their masts which would be
flashed with the code of the day as a way to recognise allies at night.
So there are some thoughts about them.
Simon
Dave Schertzer wrote:
Quote: Ref: http://www.morsemad.com/lamps.htm
To All:
I have recently acquired an Admiralty Lantern Signalling " Hether Type "
lamp that which was possibly made in Canada or the UK during the war. It
was manufactured by
R E & R Co Ltd Can or Renfew Electric and Refrigeration Co. Ltd The
lamp is stamped AP 378A . The measurements are approx 6.25 " long and 2"
diameter. It has a code key on the right hand side with a protective
swing out cover over the top. It's in very good condition, and complete
which I would rate 8-10 or better.
It's wired to 3-D cell batteries holder which could be carried in a web
pouch with carrying strap included. There are 2 rectangular lenses, both
of which have 3 shades of blue. They insert through the side and ahead
of the lens, must be a filtering slide for night operations. The slides
have notches to index them in place. I still have the original wooden
storage box it came in with and 2 wooden slots to hold the lenses. The
brass plate on the box reads 1943.
If you have any information regarding this antique military piece I
would surly love to know. I have pictures if required. cheers dave |
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